Why I‘ll Never Make It

Why I‘ll Never Make It

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  • Jelani Alladin Live at BroadwayCon!

    In July of this summer, I did my very first BroadwayCon, which is an annual conference here in New York City about all things Broadway and theater, and while I was there, I got to be a part of events hosted by the Broadway Podcast Network. I conducted live interviews with two actors that I’ve had the pleasure of working with before: Jelani Alladin and Sharon Catherine Brown. Sharon’s interview will actually be featured in a few weeks on my other podcast Closing Night, so follow that theater history podcast on my episode about Jekyll & Hyde.

    But for today on this podcast, you’ll get to hear from Jelani Alladin as we discuss his time in Frozen and Hercules, and why the musical Violet is so meaningful and important to him. You’ll also get to hear his answers to the final five questions, which I usually reserve for WINMI subscribers, but that’s just some of the little treats you’ll be getting in this special episode live from BroadwayCon 2023. 

    • INTRO - Working together in Boy Meets Girl in 2017
    • STORY #1 - Making his Broadway debut in Frozen
    • STORY #2 - What he learned and why he got fired from Hercules
    • STORY #3 - He didn't always love singing
    • EXTRA - the final five questions

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        32 min
      • Noah Crandell Finds a Silver Lining in the Struggles of Being an Actor

        In the midst of the devastating impact of the pandemic on the arts, there's a unique perspective rarely explored--that of artists just entering the performing arts world when Covid struck. In this episode, Noah Crandell shares how he not only survived these challenges but also experienced a profound personal and artistic transformation.

        Noah's visionary approach to theater sets him apart, and we delve into how college programs prepare actors (or fall short) for the real world of acting. Interestingly, he turned down auditions for Hamilton not once, but twice. We'll also uncover the deeper meaning and purpose Noah has found beyond theater, shedding light on why being more than just an actor is essential to him. So, stay tuned for this inspiring conversation about resilience and self-discovery amidst trying times.

        • INTRO - How he caught the acting bug from the Red Sea
        • STORY #1 - Leaving NYC after a terrible year of auditioning
        • STORY #2 - Saying no to Hamilton...twice!
        • STORY #3 - rejecting the notion of always doing something to better your career

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            56 min
          • Welcome to Closing Night at the Marquis Theatre!

            Last year, the idea for a new theater history podcast came up as Dan Delgado and I were working on The Little Prince episodes. Well, it took me awhile to get the ball rolling, but the first season of Closing Night is finally here with a focus on Broadway's Marquis Theater.

            This first episode preview covers the contentious history of this theater and the protests that surrounded its construction. Future episodes will chronicle the many troubled productions that have come and gone in this theater's young history.

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            This podcast is a production of WINMI Media with Patrick Oliver Jones as host and executive producer. Dan Delgado is the editor and co-producer, not only for this podcast but also for his own movie podcast called The Industry. Blake Stadnik composed the theme music, and Maria Clara Ribeiro is co-producer.

            Much appreciation goes to Joe Rosenberg and Mark Robinson for their insights, Tim Dolan for his support, Robert Armin who captured those street protests back in 1982, as well as the voice talents of our own Dan Delgado and Kate McClanaghan from Actors’ SOUND ADVICE.

            Click here for a transcript and full list of resources used in this episode (and there were a lot of them believe me).

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            40 min
          • Lisa Lampanelli, The Queen of Mean Makes Nice and Gets Personal About Life on the Stage

            I was in college when I first discovered Lisa Lampanelli, a stand-up comedian, insult comic, actress, and writer who is known for her sharp wit, fearless humor, and ability to push the boundaries of comedy. She has legions of fans around the country and has performed on countless stages across the country, released numerous albums and appeared on various TV specials.

            So it is an honor to have Lisa on the podcast as we explore her unique style of comedy that made her a staple in the entertainment industry. It's an intimate and no-holds barred conversation of her triumphs, struggles, and setbacks throughout her career in stand-up comedy.

            • INTRO - Her connection to Lisa Howard, and the off-Broadway play she wrote
            • STORY #1 - Why she retired from stand-up and what she's been doing
            • STORY #2 - Food addiction and weight loss (and why not to trust the internet!)
            • STORY #3 - Her connection to the LGBT community and the Gay Men's Health Crisis

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                Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast with actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.


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                54 min
              • E. Clayton Cornelious on Persistence and Opportunity as a Broadway Actor and Producer

                E Clayton Cornelious has been a part of 10 Broadway shows: in the ensemble, as an understudy and swing, as well as in starring roles, and even as a producer. And in one of those he made an appearance in voiceover. And it is this diversity of work that we will be talking about today. It will shed light on the fact that things haven’t been as easy for him as it may seem.

                He’s had to overcome some definite obstacles, and gather a bit of persistence along the way. So from the bright lights of Broadway to his own quiet moments of reflection, we'll hear about a career that is always evolving and the resilience it takes to navigate this ever-changing industry.

                • STORY #1 - Coming to NYC at 19 with bags packed thinking he had a job and realizing he still had to audition
                • STORY #2 - When he tore my ACL in 2009 on the Dirty Dancing Tour
                • STORY #3 - Going on tour with Kinky Boots and not really loving it to the point it made him question his place in this industry

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                  Producing this podcast is a rewarding experience, but it's also costly and time-consuming as I’m essentially a one-man operation. By subscribing you’ll be supporting these podcasting efforts, and have access to extended conversations and other bonus content. Whether you subscribe or donate, your financial support of this podcast is greatly appreciated!

                  • Subscribe to get access to bonus episodes and extra content  
                  • Make a one-time Donation to support transcripts and podcast production
                  • If you'd like to support WINMI but have limited funds to do so, then contact me directly for reduced-price or even free access to the bonus content.

                     

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                    Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast with actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.


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                    46 min
                  • Tony Award Nominees Talk About RAGTIME and XANADU on Broadway

                    My first conversation is with Marcia Milgrom Dodge, who I am so grateful to have met for the first time in this interview. We had a wonderful discussion about her 2009 production of Ragtime that started at the Kennedy Center in D.C. and then transferred to Broadway later that year. Though that revival had a short run, she did receive a Tony nomination for best direction.

                    The second conversation is with Dan Knetgches, and we have worked together on a couple of shows. The first was Seussical at The Muny in St. Louis, and the other was How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying at Theater Under the Stars in Houston, where Dan is now the Artistic Director. He and I discuss his 2008 Broadway production of Xanadu, which earned him a Tony nomination for best choreography.

                    It’s directors like Dan and Marcia who put in countless hours of work to bring a show to life, and they deserve our recognition and gratitude, which is what this special episode is all about. Because without them, musical theater wouldn’t be the magical experience that we know and love.


                    SUBSCRIBE TO WINMI

                    Get access to Audition Stories, the Final Five questions, and other bonus content by becoming a monthly or yearly subscriber to Why I’ll Never Make It. Producing this podcast is rewarding in its own way, but I’m essentially a one-man operation. So it is both costly and time-intensive to put together each episode. By subscribing you’ll be supporting these podcasting efforts, and have access to extended conversations and other bonus content. Your financial support of this podcast is greatly appreciated!

                    • Subscribe to get access to bonus episodes and extra content  
                    • Make a one-time Donation to support transcripts and podcast production
                    • If you’d like to support WINMI but have limited funds to do so, then contact me directly for reduced-price or even free access to the bonus content.

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                      Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast hosted by actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.

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                      45 min
                    • Sidney Myer Found a Home and Family in New York Cabarets

                      Cabarets have been an integral part of New York City's cultural fabric for over a century, offering a unique blend of entertainment, social commentary, and artistic expression. From the early 1900s to the present day, cabarets have served as a hub for artistic experimentation and innovation. They have also served as a launching pad for many Broadway stars, including Liza Minnelli, Barbra Streisand, Audra McDonald, and others who got their start honing skills and building a loyal fan base before transitioning to the Broadway stage. The intimacy and informality of cabaret performances have allowed performers to develop their craft and connect with audiences in a way that is impossible in larger, more formal venues. And here in New York there’s been one man in particular helping artists find their voice onstage. 

                      Sidney Myer has been a cabaret booking manager for four decades at venues like Don’t Tell Mama, Rose’s Turn, and Panache. He’s also a performer himself, having won MAC and Bistro Awards (MAC stands for Manhattan Association of Cabarets & Clubs). As Sidney can attest to, cabarets offer performers a chance to showcase their vocal talents and connect with audiences on a personal level. They have given voice to marginalized communities, including African Americans, LGBTQ+ individuals, and immigrants. Through this cabarets have played a significant role in shaping New York’s cultural identity as well as giving a home to many artists like Sidney.

                      • STORY #1 - The struggles he faced at an all male prep school, especially when he happened to say he liked Judy Garland instead of the TV show Bonanza.
                      • STORY #2 - The random set of events that led up to his first acting experience in summer stock theater.
                      • STORY #3 - A very special act that he recruited to open up a new nightclub.

                      • SUBSCRIBE TO WINMI

                        Get access to Audition Stories, the Final Five questions, and other bonus content by becoming a monthly or yearly subscriber to Why I’ll Never Make It. Producing this podcast is rewarding in its own way, but I’m essentially a one-man operation. So it is both costly and time-intensive to put together each episode. By subscribing you’ll be supporting these podcasting efforts, and have access to extended conversations and other bonus content. Your financial support of this podcast is greatly appreciated!

                        • Subscribe to get access to bonus episodes and extra content  
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                          Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast hosted by actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.

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                          1 hr 1 min
                        • Why I’ll Never Make It Joins the Broadway Podcast Network!

                          Well, after more than five years, Why I’ll Never Make It is taking a big leap forward as a Podcast, joining the highly respected and expansive Broadway Podcast Network. So over the coming weeks, you’ll notice some changes to the podcast format. You’ll hear that short ID tag before every episode, and there will also be something that this podcast has never had: advertisements. 

                          For years I have remained a tried and true independent podcaster, but with the ever-increasing costs of producing a podcast, this move to the Broadway Podcast Network is an exciting new chapter in growing this podcast and helping sustain it for many seasons to come.

                          Thank you so much for listening to this podcast, and I hope you will continue to enjoy the guests and conversations throughout the rest of this season and beyond. Why I’ll Never Make It is actually starting to make it a bit, and I can’t wait to see what happens next!


                          SUBSCRIBE TO WINMI

                          Get access to Audition Stories, the Final Five questions, and other bonus content by becoming a monthly or yearly subscriber to Why I’ll Never Make It. Producing this podcast is rewarding in its own way, but I’m essentially a one-man operation. So it is both costly and time-intensive to put together each episode. By subscribing you’ll be supporting these podcasting efforts, and have access to extended conversations and other bonus content. Your financial support of this podcast is greatly appreciated!

                          • Subscribe to get access to bonus episodes and extra content  
                          • Make a one-time Donation to support transcripts and podcast production
                          • If you’d like to support WINMI but have limited funds to do so, then contact me directly for reduced-price or even free access to the bonus content.

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                            Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast hosted by actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.

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                            2 min
                          • Corrie Legge Shares How Choices Have Shaped Her Acting Career

                            Previous guest Michael Kushner loves to use the term multi-hyphenate to illustrate the many ways we can express our creative selves. Well, Corrie Legge describes herself as a multi-passionate actor, having performed in television, film, theater, commercials, video games, audiobooks, and more. She's also a filmmaker and a coach, helping others to build thriving creative careers without having to sacrifice a fulfilling personal life in the process.

                            Corrie and I spoke earlier this year about a particular struggle she faced that actually led her into work as a voiceover artist, which she now balances with her other role of being a mother. But we start off talking about back-to-back experiences that made her question even pursuing a career in theater altogether. 

                            • STORY #1 - Back-to-back negative experiences in theater & not taking those experiences personally
                            • EXTRAS - Letting go of fear in performance and auditions
                            • STORY #2 - How an adopted dog led her into voiceover work
                            • STORY #3 - Balancing motherhood and a career as an artist & how parenthood has made her a better actor

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                              Get access to Audition Stories, the Final Five questions, and other bonus content by becoming a monthly or yearly subscriber to Why I’ll Never Make It. Producing this podcast is rewarding in its own way, but I’m essentially a one-man operation. So it is both costly and time-intensive to put together each episode. By subscribing you’ll be supporting these podcasting efforts, and have access to extended conversations and other bonus content. Your financial support of this podcast is greatly appreciated!

                              • Subscribe to get access to bonus episodes and extra content  
                              • Make a one-time Donation to support transcripts and podcast production
                              • If you’d like to support WINMI but have limited funds to do so, then contact me directly for reduced-price or even free access to the bonus content.

                              • Follow WINMI: Website | Instagram | YouTube

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                                Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast hosted by actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.

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                                53 min
                              • Jack Canfora Continues to Learn as a Playwright, Even From His Critics

                                Writing is by its very nature, a solitary practice. Whether with pen and paper or in front of a computer screen, it is generally time spent alone, creating a world of characters and stories. Acting, on the other hand is generally a collaborative and shared effort in bringing those characters and stories to life. Psychologist Marti Olsen Laney says that writing and speaking use different pathways in the brain. Extroverts tend to speak more easily in front of others, while the writing pathways simply seem to flow more fluently and easily for introverts. So it is always a unique combination when a playwright becomes an actor or vice versa.

                                Jack began his theater career as an actor, but now primarily writes plays like Jericho and Poetic License, both critically-praised works for their dialogue. In our conversation, we talk about these two plays as well as some of the hard lessons he’s learned in producing plays in general. We also discuss the parallels between acting and writing, and how each one has helped improve the other. But like any creative endeavor, it’s a back-and-forth process of elimination, that includes being able to take feedback and comments. So with this episode I’m going to start sharing comments I get from listeners like you. Because whether its podcasting or playwriting, it’s important to highlight and expand upon what works and either improve or outright eliminate what doesn’t.

                                • STORY #1 - Learning from a harsh but accurate NY Times review
                                • STORY #2 - A high-profile play reading that didn't go as Jack had hoped & the collaborative nature of playwriting
                                • STORY #3 - Jack makes a major mistake as an actor...in his own play
                                • EXTRAS - Working with directors as a playwright (and actor)

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                                  Get access to Audition Stories, the Final Five questions, and other bonus content by becoming a monthly or yearly subscriber to Why I’ll Never Make It. Producing this podcast is rewarding in its own way, but I’m essentially a one-man operation. So it is both costly and time-intensive to put together each episode. By subscribing you’ll be supporting these podcasting efforts, and have access to extended conversations and other bonus content. Your financial support of this podcast is greatly appreciated!

                                  • Subscribe to get access to bonus episodes and extra content  
                                  • Make a one-time Donation to support transcripts and podcast production
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                                    ———-

                                    Why I’ll Never Make It is an award-winning, Top Theater Podcast hosted by actor and singer Patrick Oliver Jones and is a production of WINMI Media. Background music is by John Bartmann and Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.

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                                    45 min

                                  About Why I‘ll Never Make It

                                  From the publisher's feed

                                  The actor’s journey is one of occasional highs and frequent lows. It is a path riddled with self-doubt and frustration as we question our career choices, wondering if we’ll ever really ”make it.” But…

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