As the COVID-19 case numbers in Sydney continue to rise exponentially, regional NSW is also busy battling the spread of the virus.

Of the 633 cases yesterday, there were 23 cases from western NSW, 16 from the Hunter region and 4 in far western NSW.

The continued spread in regional areas is a massive worry, as regional areas have both vulnerable populations and unique challenges not found in metropolitan areas.

Also on today's show:

* Big jump in NSW's testing positivity rate

* Victoria, ACT and New Zealand continue to battle their own outbreaks

* If zero cases in NSW is no longer an option, but it is still possible elsewhere, what do we do?

* What does Norman mean when he refers to getting the NSW second wave "under control". He often says this after quoting experts who think COVID zero is out of reach. What are we aiming for in NSW?