Chuck Garfien has a candid conversation with White Sox pitcher Joe Kelly about the struggles of 2022 and the attitude he hopes the team will bring to spring training. He talks about playing catch with Liam Hendriks two days before Liam’s cancer announcement, why he’s a big fan of Yasmani Grandal, his thoughts on the pitch clock, as well as Joe’s new book, A Damn Near Perfect Game: Reclaiming America’s Pastime.