“We're having a mass migration that's been going on, I think, for seven or eight years, or maybe even longer, from blue to red states. And what that is going to add up to is not yet clear.”

In this episode, we sit down with Epoch Times editor-at-large Roger Simon. He’s an award-winning novelist, Oscar-nominated screenwriter, and author of the new book, “American Refugees: The Untold Story of the Mass Exodus from Blue States to Red States.”

We also take a look at Roger Simon’s unique perspective on the Israel–Hamas war.