Most churches say discipleship matters.

In this episode of Dare to Multiply, Cynthia Anderson explores a tension many pastors, practitioners, and Christian leaders feel—but don’t always name: discipleship is often emphasized, taught, and programmed… yet reproduction rarely follows.

This conversation isn’t about blame or better techniques. It’s about re‑examining what Jesus actually did—and what happens when discipleship shifts from information transfer to obedience‑based, life‑on‑life formation.