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What happens when commercial real estate owners ignore the fine print in their loan documents, and how can one mistake cost them everything?

In this episode, Yonah welcomes Shlomo Chopp, a seasoned expert in structured finance, real estate, and distressed asset workouts. Shlomo shares his unconventional path into commercial real estate, the importance of understanding debt structures, and the major pitfalls borrowers face in today’s high-interest environment. From his early days in flooring and software sales to managing complex loan workouts, Shlomo breaks down how structured finance operates, why many borrowers are in distress, and how his patented solutions might help reshape the future of shopping centers.

[00:01 - 07:00] From Flooring Sales to Finance

• How career pivots shaped Shlomo's real estate journey
• Why necessity led him to structured finance
• The importance of deep document knowledge in distressed assets

[07:01 - 14:00] What Structured Finance Actually Means

• What sets structured finance apart from traditional loans
• How lenders reduce risk by syndicating deals
• Why structured deals exploded pre-2008 and again recently

[14:01 - 21:00] Current Market Distress & Why It’s Happening

• Which asset classes are struggling most—and why
• How overleveraging and poor planning created problems
• Why technicalities in loan documents can trigger major consequences

[21:01 - 28:30] Innovation, Patents & Retail Reinvention

• Why Shlomo filed patents to rethink shopping centers
• How micro-fulfillment might bridge e-commerce and retail
• The significance of patience in innovation and timing

[28:31 - 34:33] Philosophy, Negotiation & Defining Success

• How he measures success beyond just profits
• Why mentorship and strategic relationships matter
• The value of reading widely to stay sharp

Connect with Shlomo:

Website: www.caseinv.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/chopp

Twitter: x.com/ShlomoChopp

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Tweetable Quotes:

“There’s no such thing as passive income—only passive losses.” - Shlomo Chopp

“Structured finance isn’t just about money. It’s about aligning risks and rewards so everyone involved sees the path to getting paid.” - Shlomo Chopp

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