Haines sits down with executive producer Brian Teta to discuss yesterday's debate at the Hot Topics table about how to react to the next four years of Trump and the metaphor that is guiding her thinking, why she says you shouldn't have a checklist for dating, and talks embracing holiday fun with her family of five!

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