You've probably heard about this phrase, "DINK Lifestyle"...it stands for "Dual Income, No Kids".

This is a lifestyle that some couples are choosing to live, whereby they prioritize work and income and doing whatever they want, without the "burden" of kids.

This is a selfish, anti-family, and very sad way to live, and it's vital that we put forward a more compelling vision for the future so that we save as many people as possible from going down this path of regret.

Jeremy is joined by Robert Bortins, CEO of Classical Conversations, to talk about the SILK lifestyle..."Single Income, Lots of Kids".

We talk about why DINK is so destructive, the underlying philosophy behind it, and how to create a real vision for flourishing.

On this episode, we talk about:

0:00 Intro

1:08 DINK vs SILK

3:59 Promotion of certain lifestyles

9:37 What's wrong with celebrating DINK?

15:45 Vision for flourishing

21:40 Narratives and deciding what to celebrate

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Resources Mentioned:

X Post: https://x.com/TheRobertBshow/status/1994556735764533374

Classical Conversations: https://classicalconversations.com/

New York Times Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/30/opinion/marriage-divorce-happy.html

Woke and Weaponized by Robert Bortins: https://wokeandweaponized.com/

Robert's Substack: https://substack.com/@therobertbshow

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