In every podcast episode, we meet people who work in government and public service. We’re always impressed by their passion and commitment. But what drew them to their work, what drives them and why do they keep doing such a tough job?

In this episode, we talk to real public servants about the joys and challenges of their work. 

In this episode:

• Adrian Brown (host): Centre for Public Impact
• Pierre Berastain (host): Interim Executive Director, Centre for Public Impact
• Leina’ala Nakamura, Administrator at City and County of Honolulu, Hawaii
• Council Woman Pierina Sanchez, 14th Council District, New York