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In today's episode, we jumped right back on the Emerald City Express with third-time guest, Leena Norms (she/her). Leena joined us for our episode Wonka x Antisemitism and Censorship in January 2024 and then again in December 2024 for our episode Wicked x Paratexts. Now she's back to help us make sense of Wicked: For Good. Marcelle leads the episode beginning with a quick conversation about femslash, a subgenre of fan fiction which, broadly-speaking, focuses on romantic/sexual relationships between female fictional characters. Before jumping deeper into the history of femslash, Hannah, Marcelle and Leena discuss the essential question: how gay is this sequel? From there, Marcelle takes us into a conversation about subtext and representation. As always, the episode ends with a perfectly sound thesis and discussion of the movie, the media storm around the film, how Glinda is positioned as a hero, queerbaiting and revolutionary politics.
Follow Leena on Youtube here! Instagram here! And Substack here! You can support Leena's Patreon here!
“Femslash.” Ultimate Pop Culture Wiki. Fandom, Inc. 2025. https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/Femslash.
Hall, Margaret. 2025. “Wicked: For Good Is for the Gelphie Shippers.” Playbill. November 21, 2025. https://playbill.com/article/wicked-for-good-is-for-the-gelphie-shippers.
Russo, Julie Levin. 2014. “Textual Orientation: Queer Female Fandom Online.” The Routledge Companion to Media and Gender. Carter, Cynthia, Linda Steiner, and Lisa McLaughlin, eds. London: Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group. https://doi.org/10.4324/9780203066911.
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To learn more about Material Girls, head to our Instagram at instagram.com/ohwitchplease! Or check out our website ohwitchplease.ca. We'll be back next week with a Material Concerns episode, but until then, go check out all the other content we have on our Patreon at Patreon.com/ohwitchplease!
Music Credits:“Shopping Mall”: by Jay Arner and Jessica Delisle ©2020
Used by permission. All rights reserved. As recorded by Auto Syndicate on the album “Bongo Dance”.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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In today's episode, we jumped right back on the Emerald City Express with third-time guest, Leena Norms (she/her). Leena joined us for our episode Wonka x Antisemitism and Censorship in January 2024 and then again in December 2024 for our episode Wicked x Paratexts. Now she's back to help us make sense of Wicked: For Good. Marcelle leads the episode beginning with a quick conversation about femslash, a subgenre of fan fiction which, broadly-speaking, focuses on romantic/sexual relationships between female fictional characters. Before jumping deeper into the history of femslash, Hannah, Marcelle and Leena discuss the essential question: how gay is this sequel? From there, Marcelle takes us into a conversation about subtext and representation. As always, the episode ends with a perfectly sound thesis and discussion of the movie, the media storm around the film, how Glinda is positioned as a hero, queerbaiting and revolutionary politics.
Follow Leena on Youtube here! Instagram here! And Substack here! You can support Leena's Patreon here!
“Femslash.” Ultimate Pop Culture Wiki. Fandom, Inc. 2025. https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/Femslash.
Hall, Margaret. 2025. “Wicked: For Good Is for the Gelphie Shippers.” Playbill. November 21, 2025. https://playbill.com/article/wicked-for-good-is-for-the-gelphie-shippers.
Russo, Julie Levin. 2014. “Textual Orientation: Queer Female Fandom Online.” The Routledge Companion to Media and Gender. Carter, Cynthia, Linda Steiner, and Lisa McLaughlin, eds. London: Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group. https://doi.org/10.4324/9780203066911.
***
To learn more about Material Girls, head to our Instagram at instagram.com/ohwitchplease! Or check out our website ohwitchplease.ca. We'll be back next week with a Material Concerns episode, but until then, go check out all the other content we have on our Patreon at Patreon.com/ohwitchplease!
Music Credits:“Shopping Mall”: by Jay Arner and Jessica Delisle ©2020
Used by permission. All rights reserved. As recorded by Auto Syndicate on the album “Bongo Dance”.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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