US Forest Service firefighters get paid half of what an entry-level firefighter in California makes and they do some of the most unglamorous jobs. So, in this episode, we chat with Ben Strahan about his experience as a US Forest Service Hot Shot and his part in the grassroots effort to secure better pay for firefighters in the US Forest Service. He even gives us a little relationship advice in the process. This episode is not to be missed!

Books Mentioned In This Episode

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