The Ulster final was a study in winning and losing. A perfect example of the question everyone in sport has wrestled with for generations: what makes one team win and another team lose?

What makes one team confident as they reach the dying moments of a game while another becomes tense, tight and anxious?

What separates Dublin from Mayo or Donegal from Armagh? What distinguishes Alex Ferguson from David Moyes?

On Free State today, Dion and Joe look at the difference between winning and losing. Joe talks about the time he spent with the men from the great Kilkenny sides recently and what he discovered from those conversations about the secret of success. And when they talk about winning, naturally the conversation leads back to Jim McGuinness.

Free State with Joe Brolly and Dion Fanning is a Gold Hat Production in association with SwanMcG.

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