Jeff Sherman came to the San Francisco Zen Center in 1968. He practiced with Shunryu Suzuki, Richard Baker, and Katharine Thanas. Now he's with Josho Pat Phelan at the Chapel Hill Zen Center.  This is the 2nd podcast with Jeff and focuses on  his role in preparing Shunryu Suzuki's  ashes site. There's a brief memory of Suzuki and a cool ghost story as well.