In this episode, we sit down with Michael Flournoy, author of Tearing the Veil: A Guide for Sharing Grace with Mormons. Once a zealous Mormon missionary and amateur LDS apologist, Michael shares the incredible story of how a three-hour debate on grace, authority, and the nature of God began his journey out of Mormonism—and into the arms of Jesus.

Joined by our interns, Grace and Charlie, we explore Michael’s unique witnessing approach called the IRIS method, which breaks down the gospel into four key concepts: Impossible Standard, Reckoned Righteousness, Indomitable Gift, and Settled in Faith. Michael offers practical advice on utilizing Mormon vocabulary to convey biblical truths, explains why Christians should read the Book of Mormon when witnessing, and discusses the importance of playing the long game in gospel conversations.

This episode is packed with practical insights for anyone passionate about sharing the truth of God’s grace with Latter-day Saints. Whether you’re preparing for door-to-door outreach, engaging in spiritual conversations with missionaries, or just beginning to understand the Mormon mindset, Michael’s testimony and tactics will equip and encourage you.

For more from Michael, check out our review of his book "Tearing the Veil."

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In this heartfelt and honest conclusion to our two-part intern reflection, join Calvin, Grace, Jon, and Charlie as they pull back the curtain on the more stretching, surprising, and soul-shaping moments of their internship with Truth in Love Ministry.

You’ll hear stories of…

• Emotional highs and lows from online witnessing and facing spiritual resistance
• Team camaraderie and grace-filled encouragement through tough conversations
• Creative challenges—like making evangelistic reels and handling overwhelming comment sections
• Personal transformation in how they understand ministry, teamwork, technology, and outreach
• How witnessing stretched their faith and shaped their approach to the next season of life and ministry

If you've ever doubted your preparedness or felt drained by the call to reach the lost, this conversation will remind you of what God can do through ordinary people with a bold love for the truth.

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In this special episode of the Witnessing Christ podcast, we sit down with our 2024–2025 intern team—Jon, Charlie, Calvin, and Grace—as they reflect on a transformative year of evangelism, discipleship, and growth. From online conversations to temple visits and late-night theology papers, these young missionaries share how God shaped their hearts, sharpened their witness, and deepened their understanding of the sufficiency of Christ.

What to Expect:

• Spiritual Insights: Hear how each intern grappled with the suffocating burden of self-made righteousness in Mormonism and came to cherish the full sufficiency of Christ’s righteousness—imputed, not earned.
• Powerful Passages: Discover the Scripture verses that became lifelines for them in the mission field—Galatians 2, Colossians 2, Hebrews, and more—and how these verses ministered to their own hearts as well as to those they witnessed to.
• Hard Conversations: Listen in as the interns recount real-life moments—from emotionally charged online arguments to vulnerable face-to-face encounters with missionaries—where the Spirit used them in ways they never expected.
• Personal Growth: Get a glimpse into how their view of ministry changed, including the challenge of dividing law and gospel, the limits of apologetics, and the beauty of trusting the Word to do the heavy lifting.
• Words of Encouragement: If you’ve ever felt unequipped to witness, you’ll be inspired by their reminders: God doesn’t need your perfect words—He needs your faithful heart, your honest story, and your willingness to trust Him.

Whether you're new to witnessing or a seasoned outreach leader, this episode offers a compelling reminder: Jesus is enough, not just for eternal life, but for everyday gospel conversations.

Be sure to join us for Part 2, where the interns discuss the surprises, team dynamics, and how they plan to apply this experience to their future ministry callings.

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In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Pastor Mark Parsons delivers a compelling sermon on Romans 3:19–28, diving into one of the most foundational questions of the Christian faith: How can a sinful human being stand righteous before a holy God?

This passage—hailed by Martin Luther as the heart of the gospel and the center of the Bible—draws a clear distinction between law and gospel. Pastor Mark brings it to life by exposing modern distortions of both and unpacking the four theological "views" that shape our beliefs: our view of God, humanity, the law, and the gospel.

Through engaging illustrations—from Reformation history to Santa Claus and even Taylor Swift—Mark shows how false gospels, whether from 16th-century Rome or today’s culture, all fall into the same trap: mixing God’s free gift with our flawed efforts. He contrasts the popular idea of "doing your best and God will do the rest" with the biblical message that salvation is entirely by grace through faith—apart from works.

Drawing from the Day of Atonement and the imagery of the mercy seat, Pastor Mark explains how the righteousness we need isn’t infused or earned—but imputed, gifted freely through the shed blood of Jesus. Our sins aren’t polished—they’re covered by the perfect sacrifice.

Listeners will leave not only with a clearer understanding of Romans 3, but also with renewed confidence in the gospel that sets hearts free. Whether you’re engaging with someone who believes in works-based righteousness or struggling with your own conscience, this episode provides gospel clarity and witnessing encouragement.

Key Takeaway:
You don’t need to stay up at night wondering if you’ve done enough. You haven’t—and that’s the point. Jesus has. Stand righteous before God not by your effort, but by his finished work, given freely by grace through faith.

In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Pastor Mark Parsons shares an outreach sermon based on the rich and relational account of Jesus' encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well in John chapter 4. More than a beautiful moment of personal transformation, this story offers a masterclass in witnessing—showing us how to move from curiosity to gospel clarity in spiritual conversations.

Pastor Mark highlights how Jesus models a wise, gracious approach in engaging someone from a rival religious background—one that echoes the challenges Christians often face when witnessing to Latter-day Saints. Like the Samaritans, the LDS community shares some familiar language and biblical elements, but with rival scriptures, priesthoods, and temples. Rather than debating every doctrinal difference, Jesus leads the woman from physical thirst to spiritual need, revealing himself as the source of living water.

Listeners will walk step by step through this iconic conversation, seeing how Jesus:

• Goes intentionally to Samaria—crossing cultural and religious boundaries.
• Opens the door with a simple question and listens with care.
• Gently reveals sin, not to shame, but to open the door for grace.
• Leads the woman from religious confusion to a clear understanding of the Messiah.

Pastor Mark shares how this passage has shaped his own approach when witnessing to Latter-day Saints—including a moving story about a visit to the Mesa, Arizona LDS temple, where a picture of Jesus and the woman at the well sparked an unexpected gospel conversation with a young missionary.

This episode encourages every believer to move beyond debate toward genuine gospel dialogue. Whether you're speaking with a Mormon friend, a coworker from another faith, or someone disillusioned with religion, Jesus’ encounter in John 4 shows us how to offer living water, not just correct answers.

Key Takeaway:
We are not called to win arguments—we are called to share Jesus. Like the woman at the well, those who receive the living water of Christ can’t help but run to tell others, “Come and see.”

In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, we share a sermon from Pastor Mark Parsons titled The Rescue, based on Ephesians 2:1–10. This message powerfully explores the heart of the gospel: that salvation is not something we contribute to, but something entirely accomplished by Christ and received through faith.

Pastor Mark begins by linking two important passages—Numbers 21 and John 3. In Numbers, God instructs Moses to lift up a bronze serpent so that anyone bitten by snakes could look at it and live. Jesus later refers to this moment in John 3 to explain his own mission: “Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up.” These passages reveal a central truth—salvation comes not by doing, but by looking in faith to the one lifted up for us.

To bring this message to life, Pastor Mark shares the compelling real-world story of the 2018 Thai cave rescue, using it as an extended illustration of what it means to be truly rescued. Like the twelve boys trapped in a dark, flooded cave with no way out, we were spiritually dead—unable to save ourselves. The rescue required skilled divers to come from the outside, carry the boys out one by one, and do everything for them. Some initially suggested training the boys to swim their way out, but rescuers quickly realized that wouldn’t work. The boys couldn’t contribute to their escape—they could only trust their rescuers.

In the same way, Ephesians 2 tells us that we were dead in our sins, not merely struggling or needing guidance. But God, rich in mercy, made us alive in Christ. We are saved by grace, through faith, and even that faith is a gift, not something we generate. Not by works, so that no one can boast.

This episode equips Christians with a vivid and relatable way to explain the gospel, especially when speaking with those who believe their eternal life depends on personal worthiness or moral improvement. The story of the cave rescue becomes a moving picture of the biblical truth that we don’t rescue ourselves—Jesus does.

In this episode of Witnessing Christ, Mark is joined by Grace and Charlie to explore Tearing the Veil: A Guide for Sharing Grace with Mormons by Michael Flournoy. This insightful book, written by a former LDS apologist turned Christian, is a practical tool designed to equip Christians to witness effectively to Latter-day Saints.

The conversation highlights Flournoy’s unique perspective as a seventh-generation Mormon who once sought to defend his faith but was ultimately converted by the very words of Scripture. The hosts discuss his strategic IRIS acronym—Impossible Standard, Reckoned Righteousness, Indomitable Gift, and Settled at Faith—which outlines a step-by-step approach to gospel-centered conversations with Mormons.

Together, they unpack key themes from the book, such as the burden of Mormonism’s impossible expectations, the transactional nature of LDS theology, and the transformative power of reckoned righteousness through Christ. They also explore how Flournoy leverages the Book of Mormon itself to sow seeds of doubt in LDS teachings and emphasize the importance of discerning each person’s primary “conversion type”—doctrinal, social, or spiritual—to tailor the witness effectively.

Throughout the episode, listeners are encouraged to play the long game in evangelism, patiently guiding Mormons toward a grace-filled understanding of the gospel. The team reflects on the emotional cost of leaving Mormonism, the importance of building genuine relationships, and the value of expressing personal testimonies that incorporate LDS language to foster understanding.

Whether you're meeting with missionaries, witnessing to loved ones, or just beginning to understand Mormon doctrine, this episode offers invaluable tools and heartfelt encouragement. Tune in to hear how Flournoy’s journey—and the gospel he now shares—offers hope, clarity, and true rest in the righteousness of Christ.

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This podcast explores published works written by former-Mormon Christians, highlighting their journeys to faith in Jesus Christ and their insights into the transformative power of the gospel. As part of our episodes, we occasionally quote excerpts from these copyrighted materials.

We do so under the Fair Use provisions of U.S. copyright law (17 U.S. Code § 107), which allow limited use of copyrighted content for commentary, critique, education, and discussion. Our use is transformative, offering biblical reflections, theological analysis, and witnessing insights to help Christians share the gospel in love and truth.

Our intention is not to replace or replicate the original works but to provide thoughtful engagement that encourages listeners to seek out and purchase these valuable resources for themselves. All quoted content remains the property of its respective copyright holders.

In this episode of Witnessing Christ, Mark and Jon delve into The Shelf Breaker: How Jesus Drew Our Family Out of Mormonism by Damien Tracy. This powerful memoir begins with Damien’s traumatic upbringing marked by abuse, leading him into cycles of sin and despair. Despite his earnest efforts to achieve worthiness through Mormon teachings, Damien found himself trapped in guilt, fear, and unworthiness.

Join us as we explore Damien's journey—from confronting his deep-seated struggles to his transformative encounter with grace. We discuss key stress points such as the burden of worthiness, the inconsistencies between LDS teachings and practice, and Mormonism's transactional nature. Central to Damien’s story is the metaphor of the "shelf," representing accumulating doubts and contradictions that eventually broke under the weight of truth.

Damien’s narrative candidly reflects on how personal relationships with faithful Christians, consistent biblical teaching, and genuine grace opened his eyes to a new, liberating identity in Christ. This episode emphasizes the power of relational evangelism, listening compassionately, and consistently pointing to the complete forgiveness found in Jesus alone.

Whether you're witnessing to Mormon friends, grappling with doubt yourself, or eager to understand the profound contrasts between LDS theology and biblical Christianity, this discussion will provide encouragement and practical insights. Tune in to hear how Damien moved from the overwhelming pressure of performance to resting in the unconditional love of Christ.

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FAIR USE NOTICE:

This podcast explores published works written by former-Mormon Christians, highlighting their journeys to faith in Jesus Christ and their insights into the transformative power of the gospel. As part of our episodes, we occasionally quote excerpts from these copyrighted materials.

We do so under the Fair Use provisions of U.S. copyright law (17 U.S. Code § 107), which allow limited use of copyrighted content for commentary, critique, education, and discussion. Our use is transformative, offering biblical reflections, theological analysis, and witnessing insights to help Christians share the gospel in love and truth.

Our intention is not to replace or replicate the original works but to provide thoughtful engagement that encourages listeners to seek out and purchase these valuable resources for themselves. All quoted content remains the property of its respective copyright holders.

In this episode of Witnessing Christ, Pastor Mark and Calvin dive deep into The Journey to Jesus: Finding Christ After Leaving Mormonism by Brandy Bronson. This compelling book chronicles Brandy’s faith crisis sparked by doctrinal inconsistencies and historical revelations from LDS sources. As her trust in Mormon teachings unraveled, Brandy embarked on a search for truth that led her to the Bible and ultimately to Jesus.

Join us as we explore her journey, from the initial cracks in her LDS faith to her profound discovery of biblical truth. We discuss key stress points like the reliability of the Bible, the LDS emphasis on feelings over objective truth, and the pressure to suppress doubts. Brandy’s narrative not only provides a powerful apologetic for the Bible but also serves as a compassionate guide for those who feel trapped between faith and truth.

Whether you're a Christian witnessing to Mormons, a former Mormon wrestling with doubt, or someone seeking to understand the differences between LDS doctrine and biblical Christianity, this episode offers valuable insights and encouragement. Tune in and discover why Brandy says, "I left Mormonism because of its problems, but I stay with Christ because of his promises."

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FAIR USE NOTICE:

This podcast explores published works written by former-Mormon Christians, highlighting their journeys to faith in Jesus Christ and their insights into the transformative power of the gospel. As part of our episodes, we occasionally quote excerpts from these copyrighted materials.

We do so under the Fair Use provisions of U.S. copyright law (17 U.S. Code § 107), which allow limited use of copyrighted content for commentary, critique, education, and discussion. Our use is transformative, offering biblical reflections, theological analysis, and witnessing insights to help Christians share the gospel in love and truth.

Our intention is not to replace or replicate the original works but to provide thoughtful engagement that encourages listeners to seek out and purchase these valuable resources for themselves. All quoted content remains the property of its respective copyright holders.

Welcome to another episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast! In this installment of our Latter-day Saint book review series, Mark, Molly, and Grace dive into After All We Can Do by Dieter F. Uchtdorf, a prominent LDS apostle whose winsome style and nuanced take on grace has captured attention within and beyond his faith tradition.

Uchtdorf attempts to reinterpret 2 Nephi 25:23—“it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do”—in a more hopeful and less burdensome light. But does his message reflect biblical grace or reinforce the same exhausting cycle of works righteousness with softer language? Our team engages this question as they thoughtfully explore the book’s high-sounding promises and troubling inconsistencies.

In this episode, you'll hear a critical yet compassionate assessment of the LDS doctrine of “enabling grace,” Uchtdorf’s use of the parable of the prodigal son, and his attempts to merge gratitude-based obedience with conditions for exaltation. Through it all, Mark, Molly, and Grace contrast LDS teachings with the biblical gospel—that salvation is God’s free gift, not a reward for effort, and that hope and righteousness come from Christ alone.

Join us as we examine how to lovingly respond to LDS friends drawn to Uchtdorf’s tone but still burdened by the call to prove their worth. Learn how to point them to the true hope, rest, and rescue found only in Jesus.

Access the Prodigal Son resources we mentioned in the episode:

• Listen to the sermon Pastor Mark preached on Luke 15, along with practical witnessing tips: Witnessing Christ from Luke 15: The Prodigal or Two Lost Sons.
• Share this article with your LDS friends to illustrate both the depth of our sin and the boundless grace of God: The Two Lost Sons: An Invitation to the Father’s Embrace.
• Take the Quiz! Which Son Are You? (Take this with your LDS friends for a good discussion on which of the two sons you most relate to and why.)

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This podcast explores published works written by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, with a particular focus on topics such as grace, salvation, and the character of God. As part of our episodes, we occasionally quote excerpts from these copyrighted materials.

We do so under the Fair Use provisions of U.S. copyright law (17 U.S. Code § 107), which allow limited use of copyrighted content for commentary, criticism, education, and discussion. Our use is transformative, offering biblical responses, theological reflection, and practical witnessing tips to help Christians share the gospel in love and truth.

We want to make it clear: We do not intend to replace or reproduce the original works, nor do we seek to disparage their authors. Instead, our goal is respectful engagement, inviting honest dialogue around eternal questions and the hope found in Jesus Christ. All quoted content remains the property of its respective copyright holders.