Enjoy this 86th edition of WLRN's monthly podcast as the heat wave hits America this early Summer in June!

This month, Jenna features an interview she did with Gwen Hoffman, a woman with 25 years of experience working in the "giving" fields of crisis intervention, CPS investigations, and childcare. She holds degrees in Psychology and American Studies and is currently pursuing a PhD in History. She and Jenna explore the idea of "social work" and how it is much broader than what we traditionally think of when we hear the term.

Before the interview, Mary O'Neill delivers the world news segment including a story about the latest Pulitzer Prize winner who is a man claiming to be a woman and a story about British Cycling and their ban on men entering races in the women's division.

After the world news, enjoy the entire song "We don't need another hero" by Tina Turner before the interview.

Finally, stay tuned 'til the very end for Sekhmet SheOwl's fantastic commentary on the subject of social work, what it is, and why so many women are drawn to the field. Sekhmet ends her commentary with a shout-out to all of the women who do social work because, without them, the world would be in a far worse state than it is.

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