Word In Your Ear

Word In Your Ear

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  • Peter Capaldi’s life in a teenage Glasgow punk band and a public apology to the Cocteau Twins

    Peter Capaldi – aka Malcolm Tucker, Dr Who, the universal screen delight and an Oscar-winning film director – was the singer in the punk band the Dreamboys in the late ‘70s who put out a single when he was at the art school in Glasgow. And then became an actor. And then - in the grand tradition of actors who’ve made albums, Hugh Laurie, Scarlett Johansson, Jeff Bridges and Keanu Reeves among them – released St Christopher in 2021. He’s just recorded a second, Sweet Illusions, and talks to us in this extremely funny and entertaining pod about …

     

    … how his sole motivation was “a burning desire to be on the telly”.

     

    … the difference between fronting bands and being in plays.

     

    … how he grievously stitched up support band the Cocteau Twins at a gig in Grangemouth.

     

    … a teenage love of Slade - “a bit terrifying but still a bit safe”.

     

    … first-hand evidence of the connection between Blakey from On the Buses, Adolph Hitler and Beatles.

     

    … “you have to write a hundred songs before you can write a good one”.

     

    … arriving at art school in ’76 a Neil Young fan and his overnight transformation – “peroxide hair, PVC trousers and bright red crepe sole shoes”.

     

    … seeing Simple Minds at the Mars Bar in Glasgow, Jim Kerr with his Shakespearian haircut, “strange, powerful, imaginative, post-glam”.

     

    … forming the Dreamboys and “trying to be big, clever and Kafka-esque”.

     

    … the stigma of being virtually the only band in Glasgow not to get a John Peel session.

     

    … writing the “bizarro pulp” lyrics for the Dreamboys – “we couldn’t decide if we were the Cramps or Talking Heads”.

     

    … what’s required, “apart from a terrible Scouse accent”, in playing John Lennon onstage and George Harrison onscreen.

     

    … auditioning (comedian, actor, TV host) Craig Ferguson as the band’s drummer.  

     

    … how Bill Forsyth launched his acting career: “one minute you’re supporting Altered Images, the next in a movie with Burt Lancaster”.

     

    … forming a duo with Keanu Reeves when filming Dangerous Liaisons in Paris – powdered wigs in the daytime, guitar/bass punk-thrash at night.

     

    .. the romantic Edward Hopper charm of Glasgow in the ‘70s - proto-goths, street lights, rain.

     

    … how Dr Robert of the Blow Monkeys and four months filming The Suicide Squad in Atlanta spurred him into writing songs.  

     

    … the greatest record of all time.

     

    Order the Sweet Illusions album here:

    https://shop.lastnightfromglasgow.com/products/peter-capaldi-sweet-illusions-vinyl-lp-cd-lossless-dl


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    50 min
  • Alan Parsons – from the rooftop of Savile Row to Pink Floyd, Steve Harley and some singing pigs

    The teenage Alan Parsons was hired as a tape op by EMI and worked with the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Steve Harley, orchestras, comedians, Pinky And Perky and countless others in the control room at Abbey Road, and saw almost 60 years of technical revolution. He’s just finished a 50th anniversary box set of Harley’s the Best Years Of Our Lives and talks here from his Santa Monica home studio about …  

     

    … the things you find buried in old recordings.

     

     … how AI will allow anyone to remix their favourite record. 

     

    … the miraculous transformation of Make Me Smile (Come Up And See Me) from a vindictive dirge to a No 1 pop hit, its backing vocalists and its DJ-baffling false ending.

     

    … cutting the tape with John Lennon to end I Want You (She’s So Heavy).

     

    … seeing himself - ‘in an orange shirt and black knitted tie’ - in the Get Back movie 52 years later. ‘It proves I was there!’

     

    … recording the clocks, footsteps and airport announcer for The Dark Side Of The Moon - ‘playing Abbey Road studios as an instrument’.

     

    … recording He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother with Reg Dwight on piano.

     

    … the magical ‘60s technology that made Pinky And Perky.

     

    … opening the door at Savile Row and first seeing the Beatles and all their girlfriends.

     

    … recording Pilot, the Hollies and the Joe Loss Orchestra.

     

    … the story of Clare Torry and The Great Gig In The Sky. 

     

    … Abbey Road recordings stored at a nearby squash court.

     

    … working with David Gilmour on an Earls Court show from the 1990s.

     

    … touring with the Alan Parsons Project (who never toured originally).

     

    … why Papa Was A Rollin’ Stone is the greatest record of all time (clue: the hi-hat and bass figure).

     

    Pre-order Steve Harley’s ‘The Best Years of Our Lives’ here:

    https://SteveHarley.lnk.to/TBY


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    35 min
  • Mom Rock v Dad Rock, the Oasis rumour mill and Kanye West’s devious dentist.

    Perched outside the Vatican Of News awaiting puffs of white smoke, which this week arrive in the following fashion …

     

    … Brandi Carlile’s Mothership Weekend and her genius for publicity.

     

    … Jim Morrison is alive and living in Syracuse, New York!: barrel-scraping new rock documentary incoming.

     

    … Hip Hop Wealth v Rock Wealth: the $57m house Kayne West bought, gutted and left to disintegrate.

     

    … real or fictional ‘religious’ musicians – Saint Pepsi, Cardinal Rex, Pope Plastique, the Reverend Horton Heat?

     

    …. Lady Gaga at Cobacabana Beach and is there anywhere in the UK you could feasibly hold a concert for two million people?

     

    … “Crafting smiles for today’s legends’: Kayne West’s devious dentist.

     

    … is Elvis still ‘sighted in Brent Cross Shopping Centre’?

     

    … the Noel Gallagher sunglasses range! The ‘She’s Electric’ train route to Wembley!: the eternal churn of the Oasis rumour mill.

     

    … the life and luck of Peter Capaldi, one minute supporting Altered Images, the next in a movie with Burt Lancaster.

     

    … is there music for everyone anymore or is it all repackaged for subsects of the population?

     

    … ‘the towering gates of Sean Combs' estate have flaming torches burning day and night’.


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    41 min
  • Dennis McNally saw the Summer Of Love in London, New York and California

    Dennis McNally was the Grateful Dead’s publicist in the mid-‘80s, one of many reasons why he’s supremely qualified to write his new book about the birth of the counterculture in America’s West and East Coast and Britain. ‘The Last Great Dream: How Bohemians Became Hippies And Created the Sixties’, a celebration of music, beat poetry, radical thinking, free speech and artistic liberty, seems even more precious now in the light of recent events. All sorts are discussed here, these being some of the highlights … 

     

    … how the Summer of Love of ‘67 actually happened in the Fall of ‘66 in Haight-Ashbury.

     

    … “rigid, stagnant, terrifying”: early ‘60s America before the revolution.

     

     … the three key cities that “experimented with freedom”.

     

    ... how San Francisco “cherished strangeness” and had a self-proclaimed ruler, Emperor Norton, who created his own currency.

     

    … how the Grateful Dead - “the ultimate example of the bohemian pulse writ large in music” – spent $1m building a sound system when they were earning $125 a week.

     

    … the influence of Private Eye, Beyond The Fringe and That Was The Week That Was on British culture. And of Lenny Bruce, the Hungry I club, Bill Cosby, Woody Allen and Mort Sahl in America.

     

    … how Rebel Without A Cause and the Wild One helped establish the West Coast as rebellious.

     

    … “there are two flags of freedom – one to make as much money as possible, the other to be as open-minded and thoughtful about everything”.

     

    … Eisenhower said “in God we trust!” But which God?

     

    … the entire security for the 25,000 crowd at the Human Be-In in Golden Gate Park was two mounted policemen.

     

    … “nothing is more fun than researching”.

     

    ... how the counter-culture was created with very little money or technology.

     

    Order the Last Great Dream here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Last-Great-Dream-Bohemians-Hippies/dp/0306835665


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    40 min
  • The greatest duet, rock cameos in Miami Vice and the rebirth of Mississippi John Hurt

    Passing the thermometer of conversation over the rock and roll news to see where the mercury rises, which this week includes …

     

    … the new Barbra Streisand duets album. Duets are ‘playlets’, small intense dramas that depend on human interaction, but so many are recorded separately (including, tragically, Ain’t No Mountain High Enough by Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell).

     

    … but … duets you HAVE to hear! eg Cash & Carter, Otis Redding & Carla Thomas, Ray Charles & Betty Carter, Siouxsie & Morrissey, Nick Cave & Kylie, Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush.

     

    … the extraordinary story of the rebirth and Indian Summer of Mississippi John Hurt after 40 years of invisibility.  

     

    … blues lyrics that now seem unimaginable.

     

    … Frank Zappa as a drug dealer? Miles Davis as a pimp? Cyndi Lauper as a trophy wife? Real or made-up Miami Vice rock star cameos. 

     

    … great opening lines – “We got married in a fever …!”

     

    … how you always learn something you never knew about someone from their obituary - like Mike Peters’ involvement in the highest altitude concert ever performed (on Everest with Glenn Tilbrook and Slim Jim Phantom).

     

    … where people listen to the Word In Your Ear “poddy” – eg in the bath, in court, at wedding receptions, by the Allman Brothers’ graveside.

     

    Plus birthday guest John Montagna on rock stars who should be in a TV series.


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    50 min
  • Al Murray and James Holland talk the ending of the war in 1945 and the afterlife of The Beatles

    In which comedian Al Murray and historian James Holland talk about their new book Victory ’45 and our twin national obsessions, the Second World War and The Beatles. Includes:

    ….how being emotionally shut down enabled Montgomery to collect the surrender at Luneburg Heath

    ….how a profound sense of duty helped Harry Truman make the most dreadful decisions anyone has ever faced

    …how German soldiers could keep on invoicing right until the end

    …what all this has to tell us about our present predicament

    …why thousands of blokes in camo (and a surprising amount of women) attend their We Have Ways Fest every summer: https://wehavewaysfest.co.uk/

    ….what it is that continues to fascinate us about World War II.

    ….how its story is being told in new ways

    …how they both came to The Beatles


    Buy Victory '45 here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Victory-45-history-bestselling-historians/dp/0857507958


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    43 min
  • Derek Shulman – when Simon Dupree and Gentle Giant were “the darlings of the English Mafia”

    Derek Shulman was at the heart of two great transformations – Simon Dupree & the Big Sound switching to psychedelia, and then sensing the prog-rock trade winds and becoming Gentle Giant. One minute he was singing Kites, the next Pantagruel’s Nativity (Gentle Giant’s rebooted ‘Playing The Fool: The Complete Live Experience’ is just out). After which he was a record label president signing Bon Jovi, Slipknot and Nickelback and rebooting AC/DC and Bad Company. It’s a phenomenal story and involves …  

     

    … three pieces of advice for any band today.

     

    … playing the ‘64 circuit in his R&B band the Roadrunners.

     

    … the fictitious character he invented as Simon Dupree.

     

    … when Dudley Moore was their session pianist.

     

    … memories of Marc Bolan (“flat on his back playing guitar”), Tony Iommi, Tony Visconti, Don Arden, Gerry Bron and “the English mob”.

     

    … what they borrowed from Traffic in the Great Psychedelic Scare of 1967. 

     

    … auditioning for George Martin and the lab-coated sound engineers at Abbey Road.

     

    … being phoned on a ship returning from Sweden to be told ‘Kites’ was Top Twenty and doing Top Of The Pops with Status Quo and the Kinks.

     

    … “cars and bags of jewels”: the advantage of being “the darlings of the Isle of Wight Mafia” (which included the Krays).

     

    … watching Bowie recording The Man Who Sold The World at Trident.

     

    … Elton John’s advice that helped form Gentle Giant.

     

    … the catastrophic US tour with Black Sabbath (on their “chemical romance”) where the audience threw cherry-bombs onstage: “you learnt how to work a crowd!”

     

    … George Underwood’s cover for the first Gentle Giant album.

     

    … what he saw in Slipknot and why he signed them.

     

    You can order GENTLE GIANT – PLAYING THE FOOL: THE COMPLETE LIVE EXPERIENCE here: https://gentlegiantuk.lnk.to/PTF


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    43 min
  • The entertaining fictions of Max Romeo and Robert Smith and tech that actually works!

    While Mark Ellen is hanging out with the other old ruins in Athens, David Hepworth and Alex Gold compare and contrast the organisation of the London Marathon with the Travellodge in Frimley and wonder…


    …Rolling Stone cover stars or members of Trump’s clown cabinet?

    …if you were interviewed as often as a rock star would you too make stuff up?

    …was Max Romeo’s innocent explanation of “Wet Dream" convincing?

    …where do you listen to the Word In Your Ear Podcast?


    All this and more in your favourite podcast.


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    37 min
  • Moon Zappa remembers life with her father Frank. ‘Pagan absurdists’ aren’t great parents

    Moon Zappa grew up in what appeared, on the outside, to be an enviably free-wheeling and creative household in Laurel Canyon. On the inside, not so much. Her extremely funny, soul-baring and colourful account of dysfunctional family life in her memoir Earth To Moon is as gripping as it’s unsettling. A typical day: “Your mother’s on the rampage, I need you to hide the gun!” Only other children with famous parents can fully gauge the emotional turmoil. She talks here about her memoir Earth To Moon – just out in paperback – and the impact of Frank’s work and tours on the frail domestic set-up and the years they all spent “stewarding his genius”. Along with …

     

    … “is genius worth the collateral damage?”

     

    … fond memories of rare moments with her workaholic father.

     

    … the Zappa family’s perilous finances: “Could he write a pop song or did he just choose not to?”

     

    ... how she was shut out of the control of Frank’s estate “plus a clause saying if I found religion I’d get no money at all”.

     

    … the nurses’ reaction when they discovered her new-born brother was named ‘Dweezil’.

     

    ... recording Valley Girl, the song that made her a teenage star and changed the family fortunes but got no gratitude from her parents.

     

    … why Frank found Valley Girl’s success “mortifying”. And how her one catastrophic live version put her off stage performance for life.

     

    … and that unique bond you have with other celebrity offspring: “Jakob Dylan and I just cackle with laughter. ‘That happened to you too?’”

     

    Order ‘Earth To Moon’ in paperback here:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Earth-Moon-Unit-Zappa/dp/1474623859/ref=asc_df_1474623859?mcid=ae11e321cea83f4486c71a35dd95a9ea&th=1&psc=1&hvocijid=15982814295882496701-1474623859-&hvexpln=74&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696285193871&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15982814295882496701&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9072502&hvtargid=pla-2281435176458&psc=1&gad_source=1


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    50 min
  • Daryl Hall - ‘60s soul session work, the right shoes and a barge trip with Bob Dylan

    We like to think of Daryl Hall as a kindred spirit, his home-recorded Live At Daryl’s House series with its magnificent roster of guests now racking up 90 episodes. He’s about to tour in May and talks to us here from his house in the Bahamas – straw hat, roosters crowing! – looking back at the first gigs he ever saw and played and other delights such as … 

     

    … travelling with his mother’s Broadway dance band when he was three.

     

    … seeing the Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Patti LaBelle and the Bluetones in the Uptown Theater, Philadelphia, in the early ‘60s.

     

    … Three Men In A Boat: a barge trip through London with Dave Stewart and Bob Dylan.

     

    … “My teenage rule: I will only wear dark green or black and needlepoint shoes. I had balls in those days!”

     

    … why Hall & Oates is “in the past” - “He initiated the split and neither of us want to resolve it”.

     

    … songs he always plays - Sara Smile, I Can't Go for That (No Can Do) – and why you’ll never hear She’s Gone again.

     

    … making his first records on a four-track in Virtue Studios, Philadelphia, and recording with MFSB. “I still like to keep it lean and mean.”

     

    … playing session piano with the Delfonics and making a single with Chubby Checker.

     

    … his first cheque for songwriting - $15.

     

    … “I brought rock and roll to my High School!”

     

    … the success of Live At Daryl’s House and the episodes with Todd Rundgren, Smokey Robinson and Glenn Tilbrook.  

     

    … his sideline in restoring 18th Century houses.

     

    Live From Daryl’s House here: https://livefromdarylshouse.com/

     

    Daryl Hall tour dates and tickets here: https://hallandoates.com/tour/

     

    Buy/stream the ‘D’ album here: https://ingrv.es/DarylHallD


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    30 min

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Mark Ellen and David Hepworth have been talking about and writing about music together and individually for a collective eighty years in magazines like Smash Hits, Mojo and The Word and on radio…

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