Hour 3 for 8/19/25

Drew welcomed Relevant Radio's Patrick Schmidt, Senior Advancement Director – Midwest Territory to discuss his amazing story about how he ended up with Relevant Radio (3:18). Then, author Matthew Becklo covered his new book The Way of Heaven and Earth: From Either/Or to the Catholic Both/And (32:07) and why he wrote it (45:36). 

Link:

https://bookstore.wordonfire.org/products/the-way-of-heaven-and-earth