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  • 481 - Kent Aberle: Playing with Blackberry Smoke, Replacing the Late Brit Turner, Renewed Perspective After Loss

    Kent Aberle is a first call drummer from Atlanta, GA. Kent is currently performing with Blackberry Smoke. He has previously recorded and toured with Kristian Bush of Sugarland , James Hall (Pleasure Club, Marry My Hope), R.A.H. and numerous other artists. Kent has over 25 years touring experience both in the US and Internationally including China, Japan, Australia, Taiwan, Canada, and others. Kent has performed on The Conan O’Brien Show, The Today Show with Kathy Lee and Hoda, The Talk, and has performed numerous times at the Grand Ole Opry as well as the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville and major festivals around the world.

    In this episode, Kent talks about:

    • The old school guitar-driven American rock band that it Blackberry Smoke
    • Having long-standing relationships with the band and its individual members
    • Teching and subbing for Brit Turner after Brit got sick
    • The idea of someone's drumming matching their personality
    • Being welcomed into the band by members and fans alike
    • Investing heavily and committing exclusively to one gig

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      1 hr 8 min
    • 480 - Dennis Holt: From Nashville to L.A. Back To Nashville, Studio Legend, Staying Active

      Dennis Holt is one of Nashville's most gifted musicians, whose drumming abilities cross nearly every genre from Americana to Country to Rock, Jazz, Ambient and R & B. Seasoned global performer, Dennis’ diversity has proven itself in recording with Taylor Swift, AD/Kansas, Emmylou Harris, Trisha Yearwood, and Deniece Williams to name but a few.

      Dennis, a first call drummer for top tier artists while living and working in both LA and Nashville, has played and toured the globe and literally performed and recorded on thousands of songs.

      When it comes to production, Dennis’ knowledge and experience from years in the studio will help you achieve the best results possible. Dennis leads with soul and always strives for perfection. He is an innovator as he looks for new ways to push creative boundaries.  Music,drumming and producing is Dennis’ driving force as he brings a wealth of experience and unparalleled enthusiasm and energy to each and every project.

      In this episode, Dennis talk about:

      • Remote tracking
      • His formative years
      • Staying active
      • Surviving a bad bicycle accident
      • Negotiating the work load when remote tracking
      • The importance of maintaining your gear
      • Recording and performing with Kerry Livgren from the band Kansas
      • Being able to read anyones chart style
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        1 hr 58 min
      • 479 - Jamie Eblen: Playing on Broadway's "The Outsiders," Stylistic Authenticity in Music Theatre, Investing Yourself in a Process

        Jamie Eblen is currently on the new hit Broadway musical The Outsiders, which just won the Tony award for best new musical. He also originated the drum chair for the smash hit Dear Evan Hansen, which also won best new musical Tony as well as the Grammy for best original cast recording. He has collaborated with acclaimed artists such as Jason Robert Brown and Pasek & Paul, as well as The RT’s and Mike Tedesco. Jamie began playing drums at the age of 10 in Los Angeles, where he was born and raised. Since moving to New York, Jamie has recorded four Original Broadway Cast albums in addition to a wide variety of session work and live performances throughout the U.S., Europe and Asia.

        In this episode, Jamie talks about

        • Going from doing anything and everything to committing more heavily to more specific gigs/playing
        • Shedding the impulses of gig envy and "grass is greener" syndrome
        • The Outsiders, the new Broadway musical he's on which just won the Tony Award for Best Musical
        • Playing off-Broadway shows such as The Connector, and being part of the development process on a show moving towards Broadway
        • The aspects of The Outsiders that are not the typical Broadway m.o. in terms of playing, mic'ing, and more
        • How Broadway and the shows that occupy it are essentially "in the real estate business"
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          1 hr 27 min
        • 478 - David Chiverton: Leading by Example, Double Drumming in the Band - Smoogies, Learning to Sound Like a Pro

          David Chiverton is a Miami Florida native who continues to work and live in south Florida. The cultural diversity in Miami as well as his upbringing in the gospel church both played a heavy role in shaping him into the musician he is today. He has toured internationally with various major talents such as Lauryn Hill, Jon Secada, Donnie McClurkin and Sheila E to name a few. His range of musical versatility includes Jazz, Gospel, Hip-Hop, R&B, Pop, and the ability to freestyle on cue.

          Not only does David teach as an Adjunct professor at University of Miami, He is also member of the group The Smoogies. The band leans into the diverse background of it’s members to influence its sound and direction. Also, David shares the stage with Harvel Nakundi, another drummer for a powerful double drumming sound.

          The “Chivertone Sessions” on YouTube showcases David’s diverse skill set.

          In this episode, David talks about:

          •    The mojo in south Florida
          •    Maintaining a forward momentum   
          •    Learning to sound like a pro
          •    The business of endorsements in 2024
          •    Double drumming in the band Smoogies
          •    Drumming with Sheila E
          •    Leading by example
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            1 hr 38 min
          • 477 - Charles Ruggiero: Playing Alongside Gadd, Maintaining Humanity and Individuality in the Digital Age, Sobriety and Creativity

            Charles Ruggiero has been active since the early 90s, cutting his teeth on the New York jazz scene and landing his first big gig with Chuck Mangione. His New York cohort included such future giants as Joshua Redman, Peter Bernstein, Jane Monheit, Brad Mehldau, and Chris Potter, to name a few. In addition to his jazz exlpoits, Charles found a home on the metal scene as a member of Slunt, and replacing Matt Sorum in the supergroup Circus Diablo. He relocated to LA in 2007 and didn't miss a step, performing with Larry Goldings, Eric Reed, Bob Sheppard, Bob Reynolds, David Ryan Harris, and many others. He has released multiple albums as a leader and performed as sideman on countless others, and also records for Loop Loft.


            In this episode, Charles talks about:

            • Playing double drums with Gadd as the intro to his first big gig with Chuck Mangione
            • Trying to serve the music through his artistry
            • What a drummer timekeeping responsibility actually is
            • His perspective on New York and LA, having spent big chunks of his career in both places
            • His various side hustles, including teaching, mixing/producing, and creating album art
            • Trusting his creativity and artistic identity after getting sober
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              1 hr 52 min
            • 475 - Josh Bailey: His New Touring Gig with Ben Platt, Running Tracks and Ears from the Drum Chair, Studying with Dafnis Prieto

              Josh Bailey has been in New York for ten years, with a wide variety of live and session work to his credit. He is on staff at Studio G (Brooklyn based recording studio), recording drums and percussion for industry and independent artists & producers, and is currently subbing on Broadway's & Juliet and The Outsiders. He has acted as music director and drummer for artists building, arranging & operating live backing tracks, running IEM mixes and contracting musicians. Josh was seen drumming on Saturday Night Live in a digital short with Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennet (2019). As music director and drummer for pop singers Erin Bowman, Josh performed on Good Morning America, and Live! With Kelly and Ryan (2017).

              In this episode, Josh talks about

              • The healthy vibe on the tour that comes from the top down
              • Posting only what you feel good about on social media, "posting with purpose"
              • MD'ing from the drum chair
              • Learning how to streamline track rigs and ears rigs for "skeleton crew" opening acts
              • His work at Studio G in Brooklyn
              • The idea of a "drum statement" and how it can flavor the song, show, and band
              • Studying with Dafnis Prieto and serving as final editor for his book "A World of Rhythmic Possibilities"
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                1 hr 25 min
              • 474 - Dre Energy: The Different Scenes in Las Vegas, Playing the Cirque du Soleil’s Quidam show, The Power of Relationships

                Dre Energy is a native of St. Louis MO, and was inspired a very early age by friends and family at his church to play drums. When the opportunity struck, he found his way to Las Vegas and began performing with Cirque du Soleil’s Quidam show where he held the drum chair from 2010 to 2016. During that time he learned so much about the industry and toured the world. Dre discovered an affinity for performing as a clinician which took them to many places around the world, including China, South Korea, England, and many other places

                Dre is also known as an entrepreneur with his own line of snare drums, practice pads and even drums shoes. He works closely with Samsun cymbals and he has his own signature line called Dre Energy signature remix line.

                In this episode, Dre talks about:

                •    Finding your people
                •    The power of relationships
                •    The variety of scenes in Las Vegas
                •    Playing the Cirque du Soleil’s Quidam show
                •    Touring China and other other unique locations
                •    Developing his own signature line of snares, shoes, cymbals
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                  1 hr 21 min
                • 473 - Larry Aberman: Making a Late Move to Nashville, Ways to Stay Present, Getting Feel Right at the Source

                  Larry Aberman has achieved in-demand status in New York, LA, Las Vegas, and Nashville recently moved to Nashville after a 12 year stint on the Cirque du Soleil show Zoomanity. Since moving, he has gotten busy playing with jazz, country, and everything in between, with Mandy Barnett, Pat Coil and others.

                  In this episode, Larry talks about:

                  • How the time to leave his Zoomanity gig after 12 years became clear quickly
                  • What social context means in music
                  • Tools to make yourself present
                  • How Southern musicians and scenes are more groove and blues based
                  • Being conscious to not bring negative energy into a musical situation
                  • Adjusting to Nashville's needs in terms of tuning and groove
                  • Getting it right at the source with tone AND feel, so that grid correction is less necessary and less noticeable
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                    1 hr 22 min
                  • 472 - Bart van der Zee: Host of the Drum History Podcast, Connecting with the Drumming Community, Meeting Charlie Watts

                    Drum History Podcast was created in October of 2018 and has been on a journey to document the history of the drums ever since. Topics range from the very early beginnings of man’s involvement with percussion up to modern day innovations that are changing the drum industry. The show has seen major growth since its launch and has become a resource for many drum historians and enthusiasts around the world.

                    Bart van der Zee is a lifelong drummer with a deep passion for learning the full history of the drums. He has been a working musician for many years performing live and as a session drummer. Bart has worked as an audio engineer and has worked on a wide variety of projects including albums, commercials, TV and Film, and a number of podcasts.

                    In this episode, Bart talks about:

                    •    Work / family balance
                    •    Drum History Podcast
                    •    Inspiring the next generation
                    •    The popularity of the “gear episodes”
                    •    WW2 era drum manufacturing
                    •    Meeting Charlie Watts
                    •    Creative ways to stay connected to the drumming community
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                      1 hr 19 min

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