In this episode, I speak with Yasmine Dankwah, the creator of Pathways, a podcast exploring how people try to find their way into the creative industries through skills development programmes. Drawing on her own experiences, Yasmine reflects on the realities of navigating these opportunities, from the process of applying to dealing with rejection. We talk about how Pathways emerged as a creative response to these experiences - using sound, storytelling, and a game-inspired structure to question how these “pathways” actually function.
00:00 Introduction to Working to Work
02:53 Yasmine introduces her creative background
04:40 Navigating freelance creative employment
05:55 The challenge of professional articulation
06:33 Finding supportive multifaceted work environments
08:36 Dyslexia, ADHD and application fatigue
12:02 Deconstructing the generic job description
14:27 Inspiration behind the Pathways Podcast
16:30 Understanding creative skills development programs
18:59 Outcome-centred vs person-centred approaches
22:09 Identity resource lacks and artistic safe spaces
23:41 Responding to progressive tokenism in theatre
25:48 Rejecting masking and industry conformity
28:50 Collective solidarity and alternative funding routes
31:56 Gamification and sound design concepts
35:27 Breakdown of Pathways episode topics
39:38 Reducing emotional labour in applications
41:09 Navigating the reality of rejection
44:27 The institutional responsibility of organisations
46:23 Neurodiversity and intersectionality in the arts
48:23 Better structural support for neurodivergence
49:08 Rethinking rigid evaluation data forms
51:11 Final thoughts and wrapping up
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Resources:
Pathways Podcast:
YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLfrQfmbUA9DECeAu-mVYoPBpDLfC_zGI&si=9lpXUjQTLjotVOBk
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7GUWvM7DN3TpBWIK87ADKe?si=B-ugiXpFSjCXmj7GiTCFlw
Neurodiversity In Music: Improving Access
Shakira Alleyne’s documentary exploring best practices, barriers, and next steps in supporting Neurodivergent creatives in the Music Industry/Education sector. https://youtu.be/DImV7c6RWFk?si=ir9RWHOilWqsmEVE
Wired4Music: https://www.wired4music.co.uk
Sound Connections: https://www.sound-connections.org.uk