Our "Hustle" episodes are interviews with foreign policy and national security experts doing interesting things we can all learn from. We uncover their origin stories and how they found their path in a field with no user's manual. In this Hustle episode, Van Jackson sits down with Dr. Kathleen McInnis, author of the novel The Heart of War: Misadventures in the Pentagon. It's The Devil Wears Prada meets Catch-22, and this interview is a must-listen. We talk about the creative process, taking chances, writing on spec, and the importance of storytelling in an analytical world.  

Buy The Heart of War: https://www.amazon.com/Heart-War-Misadventures-Pentagon/dp/1682616517

Kathleen McInnis website: https://kjmcinnis.com

Music: "Van is Meta" by Tre' Hester