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What if there’s no “right” way to write a book? No perfect planner, no ideal routine, no craft book that finally cracks the code?
In this episode, Caitlin is joined by Rachel May and Emily Golden of Golden May Editing to talk about writing with ADHD, embracing creative discomfort, and why the mess is the magic. From late diagnoses to revising six drafts only to return to the first, this conversation is a vulnerable, hilarious, and deeply validating permission slip for anyone who’s tired of doing it “by the book.”
💬 “You can’t shame your way into self-trust. And you can’t spreadsheet your way into a sacred first draft.” — Caitlin Liz Fisher
If you've ever felt like a “bad writer” for needing breaks, changing your mind, or hating your once-brilliant plot twist—this episode is your reminder: writing isn’t about following the rules. It’s about trusting yourself.
What You’ll Learn:
LINKS FOR THIS EPISODE:
Rachel May
https://www.instagram.com/bookcoachrachel/
Emily Golden
https://www.instagram.com/ebgoldenbooks/
Golden May Editing
https://goldenmayediting.com
Tenacious Writing Community:
https://www.tenaciouswriting.com
https://www.instagram.com/tenaciouswriting/
📚 NEW! THE SACRED FIRST DRAFT SOCIETY
A witchy, soul-nourishing membership for writers who are done treating their creativity like a productivity app.
Weekly coaching, co-writing, guided rituals, affirmations, and woo—on purpose.
$69/month, because we’re reclaiming pleasure in pricing
Perfect for neurodivergent writers who feel like their story ghosted them
🎟️ Join here: https://www.askfishfisher.com/sacred-first-draft-society
Support the Podcast: Membership Drive on Patreon!
If you want to keep hearing spicy, emotionally intelligent, deeply comforting takes like this one...
🎟️ Join Caitlin’s Patreon for bonus content, unfiltered rambles, exclusive merch, and the best little weird creative family on the internet: https://www.patreon.com/caitlinlizfisher
Join our Neurodivergent Creative Pod!
🌞 Want to support heartfelt conversations about mental health, creativity, and neurodivergence?
Join the Neurodivergent Creative Pod community: https://www.askfishfisher.com/pod
📩 Subscribe to Cait’s newsletter and grab your copy of the Audacity Bill of Rights—a weekly dose of "you’re not broken, you’re brilliant": https://www.askfishfisher.com/audacity
🎧 Leave a comment, send a DM @caitlinlizfisher, or scream into the void (and tag us!)
We love hearing what hit home for you!
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What if there’s no “right” way to write a book? No perfect planner, no ideal routine, no craft book that finally cracks the code?
In this episode, Caitlin is joined by Rachel May and Emily Golden of Golden May Editing to talk about writing with ADHD, embracing creative discomfort, and why the mess is the magic. From late diagnoses to revising six drafts only to return to the first, this conversation is a vulnerable, hilarious, and deeply validating permission slip for anyone who’s tired of doing it “by the book.”
💬 “You can’t shame your way into self-trust. And you can’t spreadsheet your way into a sacred first draft.” — Caitlin Liz Fisher
If you've ever felt like a “bad writer” for needing breaks, changing your mind, or hating your once-brilliant plot twist—this episode is your reminder: writing isn’t about following the rules. It’s about trusting yourself.
What You’ll Learn:
LINKS FOR THIS EPISODE:
Rachel May
https://www.instagram.com/bookcoachrachel/
Emily Golden
https://www.instagram.com/ebgoldenbooks/
Golden May Editing
https://goldenmayediting.com
Tenacious Writing Community:
https://www.tenaciouswriting.com
https://www.instagram.com/tenaciouswriting/
📚 NEW! THE SACRED FIRST DRAFT SOCIETY
A witchy, soul-nourishing membership for writers who are done treating their creativity like a productivity app.
Weekly coaching, co-writing, guided rituals, affirmations, and woo—on purpose.
$69/month, because we’re reclaiming pleasure in pricing
Perfect for neurodivergent writers who feel like their story ghosted them
🎟️ Join here: https://www.askfishfisher.com/sacred-first-draft-society
Support the Podcast: Membership Drive on Patreon!
If you want to keep hearing spicy, emotionally intelligent, deeply comforting takes like this one...
🎟️ Join Caitlin’s Patreon for bonus content, unfiltered rambles, exclusive merch, and the best little weird creative family on the internet: https://www.patreon.com/caitlinlizfisher
Join our Neurodivergent Creative Pod!
🌞 Want to support heartfelt conversations about mental health, creativity, and neurodivergence?
Join the Neurodivergent Creative Pod community: https://www.askfishfisher.com/pod
📩 Subscribe to Cait’s newsletter and grab your copy of the Audacity Bill of Rights—a weekly dose of "you’re not broken, you’re brilliant": https://www.askfishfisher.com/audacity
🎧 Leave a comment, send a DM @caitlinlizfisher, or scream into the void (and tag us!)
We love hearing what hit home for you!

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