XO Capital's Fund Stuff

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  • Usage Based Pricing Vs Recurring Revenue

    In this episode, we're talking about usage-based pricing vs. recurring revenue.

    Is it time to ditch your monthly subscription and start paying for what you use? We'll discuss the pros and cons of both pricing models, and explore how the economic environment is changing.

    We'll also talk about some of the challenges of implementing usage-based pricing, and how to overcome them. And we'll share some of our favorite tools for tracking usage and managing payments.

    So whether you're a startup founder or a seasoned SaaS exec, this episode is for you.

    We'll keep it fun and informal, and we'll promise not to get too technical. So come join us for a lively discussion about the future of pricing.

    Here are some things you'll learn in this episode:

    • The pros and cons of usage-based pricing
    • How to implement usage-based pricing
    • How to track usage and manage payments
    • The tools available to help businesses implement usage-based pricing
    • We hope you enjoy the episode!

      12 min
    • 18 - Growthbar Acquisition

      For this week, I decided to record our partner meeting as a video and a podcast. We've never done that before and I hope it gives you some insights into how we delegate tasks and work together as a team. I've gotten a few messages about this over the years and think perhaps listening to us chat through stuff might help you understand just how complimentary Danny and Henry are to my skill set (which is mostly just a fire starter).  

      Announcing XO capital's acquisition of Growthbarseo.com! Our 10th and largest deal to date! Take a look behinds the scenes with us and watch one of our internal partners meeting to see how we think and work together.

      1 hr 8 min
    • 17 - Flip Fund

      In this week's episode, the host delves into an innovative investment strategy he refers to as a 'flip fund'. This strategy involves raising funds to purchase a single company with the objective of doubling its revenue within a short span of 12-24 months, and then selling it off.

      The host discusses past experiences and challenges with fund-raising, such as potential investors' concerns about their investment duration and exit strategies. Unlike traditional venture commitments that can stretch over a decade, the flip fund concept offers a brief commitment period and clearer exit opportunities, thereby addressing several common investor objections.

      However, there are limitations to this concept. One crucial point raised was that there would be no distributions or "mailbox money" during the investment period, as all earnings would be reinvested into the company for growth purposes.

      The host brings up his successful track record, having employed a similar strategy on nine previous occasions. He also addresses risk mitigation, explaining that poorly performing companies are quickly sold to recoup investments.

      Overall, while this flip fund concept is an idea in its infancy and not a fund that is currently being raised, the host presents it as a fun, potentially profitable venture. He wraps up the discussion by inviting feedback and thoughts on the concept from the listeners.

      7 min
    • The Art Of Waiting

      In this podcast episode, the host explores the value of patience in running and growing a business, particularly in the tech sector. The conversation begins with a critique of the "move fast and break things" approach, shifting the focus towards more sustainable, long-term thinking. He emphasizes the importance of patience when negotiating deals, outlining instances where an initially rejected offer becomes viable after other buyers fall through.

      The host further shares how their company operates, elaborating on their strategy of acquiring cash-flow positive businesses and reinvesting profits to buy more companies. However, the team is conscious of their limitations, recognizing they can only take on so much, especially with their bootstrap approach. They are focused on growing organically, even if this means periods of inactivity in acquisitions.

      10 min
    • 15 - Acquisition #9 - Userping.io

      In this week's episode, we share a surprise announcement about our recent acquisition of UserPing.io, a platform originally known as MailBoat that enables founders to send onboarding emails and drip campaigns. Discover why we decided to make this purchase and how we envision using the product in our portfolio.

      We discuss the concept of a waitlist, its pros and cons, and how this applies to UserPing. Our host openly shares his personal distaste for the FOMO strategy, arguing for more direct and immediate product engagement.

      In the episode, we also delve into the reason behind acquiring UserPing and the potential for cost savings, especially with our growing portfolio of nine companies. We also draw a comparison between UserPing and other email tools in the market, such as Loops, shedding light on the factors behind our decision.

      As we explore the potential future of UserPing, the host discusses the idea of integrating in-app notifications to make user interactions more responsive. He also shares some of his struggles in defining the boundary between UserPing and a potential analytics product, and his desire to figure out the right feature set for a product-led growth analytics tool.

      Tune in to hear more about our host's other ventures, such as Super Send, SaaS deals, and Support Guy, which are at various stages of development and growth. He also addresses the issue of zero MRR products, the challenges with lifetime deals, and the value of recurring revenue.

      As the conversation wraps up, our host reflects on his experiences with cross-selling products and contemplates whether it would be beneficial to acquire tools catering to the same audience.

      Listen in for an insightful episode full of strategic business discussions, acquisition revelations, and more. If you're interested in startup acquisitions, product development, and learning from hands-on experiences, this is the episode for you!

      12 min
    • 14 - How we think about investing in generative AI
      In this light-hearted, business-to-business podcast episode about private equity, the hosts discussed their investment strategy and how they categorize their investments. They defined two main categories: safe bets and adventure bets.
      Safe bets are profitable SaaS companies, such as analytics products, that they purchase based on existing revenues. They anticipate steady growth from these investments and aim for a 5% monthly compounded growth.
      Adventure bets, on the other hand, are more experimental and may not have any customers yet. They can involve AI products or other tech products with little to no traction. The expected outcome from these bets is either a significant hit or a total write-off. They hope to have one or two out of five to ten such bets "pop."
      They also dove into their interest in generative AI products, citing products like Support Kai as examples of their venture into this sector. They mentioned that they have two more such products under Letter of Intent (LOI).
      However, they emphasized that the success of these AI-first products depends largely on whether the technology can genuinely deliver value to the customers and complete the jobs it's intended for.
      The hosts also shared their struggles with scaling due to the size of the companies they can afford to buy and the scarcity of "safe bets" in their price range. They foresee that buying larger, mid seven-figure companies would help alleviate some of these issues.
      By the end of 2023, they aim to make four to eight adventure bets while continuing to make safe bets as they become available.
      For some light-hearted fun, the host talked about experimenting with runway ML, a machine learning tool that's gaining traction. They jokingly claimed that they had reached the "singularity" after using the tool to create a picture of them riding a pony, based on 22 images of themselves.
      11 min
    • 13 - AI Generated Content
      In this episode, we dive into the exciting world of AI-generated content. Starting with the acquisition of Supportguy.co, we embark on a journey to create engaging blog posts using cutting-edge tools. We use Ghost as our blogging platform, Placid for generating captivating images, and Chat GPT, the AI powerhouse, to write our content. We discuss the prompts fed to Chat GPT and the importance of maintaining an informal and engaging tone. This innovative workflow has the potential to revolutionize text-based content creation, and we're thrilled to share our journey. Tune in to discover how AI is transforming the landscape of content creation!
      11 min
    • 12 - Acquisition #8 - Support Guy
      Read More At https://notes.xo.capital/acquisition-8-supportguy-co
       
      In this episode, we delve into our recent acquisition of another micro SaaS, SupportGuy.co, and the exciting momentum we've been building on with our series of purchases. We take a look at the intricate process of navigating large and smaller deals simultaneously and the constant challenge of maintaining financial stability and business momentum.
      SupportGuy.co, an AI-powered chatbot, is set to revolutionize customer support interactions by eliminating the repetitive nature of customer inquiries and providing real-time, accurate responses. It aims to disrupt the market dominated by services like Intercom by providing an efficient, user-friendly solution.
      The episode also delves into our "vertical integration thesis" - an idea of owning all the tools we use to manage our portfolio. SupportGuy.co, in line with this thesis, is part of our larger plan to acquire other essential tools such as newsletter and referral software.
      We also discuss our first major bet on AI technologies, having recognized the value and practicality that Large Language Models (LLMs) like OpenAI's GPT can provide. We believe that AI-first experiences, like SupportGuy.co, will eventually enhance productivity and shape the future of business interactions.
      Finally, we share the journey of asset transfer, from the challenges faced during migration on Stripe to the excitement of finally becoming the proud new owners of SupportGuy.co. Stay tuned to learn about our experiences, lessons, and the promise that AI holds for the future of business.
      12 min
    • Maybe A Thesis - v3
      Picking an investment thesis is hard. We started out with one, ditched it, and are now re-thinking how we evaluate companies to buy or build.
       
      We're supposed to be buying boring SaaS businesses that cash flow slowly and consistently. On the small end of the market, that's a little challenging to do. Often, the way that plays out is buying a small B2B enterprise SaaS company that does something pretty "boring." WorkClout was a great example of this. It sold to companies manufacturing things. Not even cool e-commerce things (mostly). When people first hear of our model and the term private equity, this is what they think we do. And they're not wrong, but they're also not quite right.
      18 min

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    Fund Stuff is a pod about all about micro private equity. We buy and operate tiny saas companies at XO.Capital. Follow along as we continue to buy, grow, and sell sass companies!