Next Comes What

You don't have to swallow frogs


Listen Later

If you aren't sure what you stand for, you're going to get played.

Subscribe to Andrea Pitzer’s Degenerate Art newsletter to support Next Comes What and get Andrea's posts first: https://degenerateart.beehiiv.com/subscribe

Read the post that inspired this episode: https://degenerateart.beehiiv.com/p/you-don-t-have-to-swallow-frogs

Watch this episode: https://youtu.be/yVS10nrdWu8?si=okUVNHwIpOe98aTF 

This week, Andrea Pitzer considers the recent conversation between New York Times columnist Ezra Klein and author Ta-Nehisi Coates, and what it means for all of us as American authoritarianism expands. The two men shared very different thoughts about what the moment requires, including their doubts about each other's approach. Andrea summarizes the talk and suggests that Coates's emphasis on history and his intellectual heritage offers more possibilities for avoiding paralysis in the moment. She worries that Klein's willingness to barter away protection of some vulnerable populations leads to a lost state in which it becomes impossible to stand for anything.

Sharing a Czeslaw Milosz quote about a man who rationally convinces himself to swallow live frogs, Andrea suggests that Klein has lost sight of the fact that doing something unpleasant isn't the same as doing something effective. She closes with thoughts on how you can find your own moral or ethical center—one that might offer some clarity on how to take action today.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Next Comes WhatBy Andrea Pitzer

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

394 ratings


More shows like Next Comes What

View all
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts by Slate Podcasts

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

3,493 Listeners

UnJustified by MSW Media

UnJustified

7,616 Listeners

Gaslit Nation by Andrea Chalupa

Gaslit Nation

3,965 Listeners

Talking Feds by Harry Litman

Talking Feds

4,612 Listeners

The Al Franken Podcast by The Al Franken Podcast

The Al Franken Podcast

8,529 Listeners

The John Fugelsang Podcast by Crossover Media Group

The John Fugelsang Podcast

1,514 Listeners

Strict Scrutiny by Crooked Media

Strict Scrutiny

5,736 Listeners

The Daily Beans by MSW Media

The Daily Beans

5,370 Listeners

The MeidasTouch Podcast by MeidasTouch Network

The MeidasTouch Podcast

48,227 Listeners

Cleanup on Aisle 45 with AG & Harry Dunn by MSW Media

Cleanup on Aisle 45 with AG & Harry Dunn

1,865 Listeners

#SistersInLaw by Politicon

#SistersInLaw

10,418 Listeners

The Lincoln Project by The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

9,192 Listeners

The PoliticsGirl Podcast by Meidas Media Network, Leigh McGowan

The PoliticsGirl Podcast

4,303 Listeners

Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast by iHeartPodcasts

Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast

2,273 Listeners

Main Justice by MSNBC

Main Justice

7,029 Listeners