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[00:00:00]
Chris and Greg reflect on the fast-passing summer, with Chris sharing upcoming October travel plans to Ireland and a booking issue with an Airbnb.
[00:04:35]
Discussion opens with EFL transfer window closing. Greg comments on Nottingham Forest’s signings, while Chris dives deep into Wrexham’s massive spending, frustrations with West Ham pulling out of deals, and net spend comparisons. They talk about building teams for future promotion.
[00:12:15]
Chris explains his hyper-strategic FC25 career mode save, scouting young talent with high valuations. They compare real and virtual strategies, Liverpool's overstacked striker depth, and how financial muscle affects parity.
[00:17:38]
Greg shares excitement over Week 1’s full slate. Topics include disliking Big Noon Kickoff, debates around Alabama's demise, questionable touchdown reviews (e.g., LSU), and frustrations with cupcake schedules.
[00:23:19]
They analyze Penn State’s lackluster offensive start, development of receivers, and Gronkmeyer’s debut. Chris shares concerns about Arch Manning and Texas’s WR group in the game vs. Ohio State.
[00:27:56]
Transition to NFL Week 1 with game-by-game discussions using oddsmakers' lines:
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[00:28–03:10] Football is Back & Fantasy Buzz
Chris and Greg kick off the show excited for college football and NFL season kickoff, discussing cut day and the rise in fantasy football energy.
[03:11–06:45] Wrexham vs. Preston & Calum Doyle Praise
They break down Wrexham’s Carabao Cup win over Preston, highlighting Calum Doyle’s elite passing and the talent jump visible in Championship play.
[06:46–09:42] Transfers, Millwall Preview & Oddsmakers Odds
Chris outlines Wrexham’s transfer targets—Jordan James and failed Andy Irving deal. They preview the upcoming Millwall match, referencing lines from the oddsmakers.
[09:43–13:38] Green Street Hooligans Deep Dive
The hosts spiral into a passionate conversation about Green Street Hooligans, discussing its streaming availability, personal nostalgia, and the questionable sequel.
[13:39–16:18] Streaming Platforms & MGM+ Critique
Chris shares his experience with MGM+ and its adaptation of The Institute, offering blunt criticism while also talking about Crunchyroll’s offerings.
[16:19–22:38] Wrexham’s Depth, Struggles & Future Outlook
They analyze Wrexham’s early-season struggles, roster changes, injuries, and future expectations, emphasizing the challenge of building across rapid promotions.
[22:39–25:34] Transfer Spending & Global Context
Chris notes Wrexham ranks 29th in global net spend this transfer window, just behind Inter Milan, sparking lighthearted hypotheticals about signing Messi.
[25:35–33:33] Week 1 College Football & Key Matchups
They preview Texas vs. Ohio State, discuss Arch Manning and Julian Sayin, and question if either is ready for elite play. NIL deals and quarterback values also surface.
[33:34–40:12] LSU vs. Clemson & Notre Dame vs. Miami
More top-10 college matchups are explored. They discuss quarterback decisions, coaching pressure, and each program’s fan expectations—without revealing outcomes.
[40:13–44:03] Miami, Nostalgia & Fan Allegiances
Greg dives into his Notre Dame dislike and Miami’s fading prestige. The pair reflect on alma mater loyalty and college football identity.
[44:04–47:00] Villanova Updates & Campus Hoax Reaction
Chris updates on Villanova sports, with shoutouts to Hannah Curtin and Hannah Dickinson, then addresses the recent hoax incident with frustration.
[47:01–55:40] Penn State, Fantasy Leagues & Podcast Wrap-Up
They talk Penn State's matchup vs. Nevada, fantasy football overload, and dealing with frustrating league members before wrapping up the show.
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[00:18–01:27] Football is Back
Chris and Greg kick off by celebrating the return of football. While Week Zero may not feel “official,” excitement is building with the college and NFL seasons starting.
[01:28–03:33] Forest vs. Crystal Palace Preview
They discuss Nottingham Forest's Premier League opener and upcoming rivalry match vs. Crystal Palace. Chris jokes about an “unlimited money” loophole—before realizing draws exist.
[03:34–06:46] Wrexham Membership & Championship Start
Chris talks about joining Wrexham's club and receiving his first away ticket lottery email. The team’s rocky Championship start and early injuries are covered, along with major transfer rumors.
[06:47–09:44] Transfer Window & FC 25 Talk
They break down Wrexham’s potential Callum Doyle signing and the transfer market. Chris compares it to his FC 25 save, where salaries and values skyrocketed during Premier League promotion.
[09:45–12:10] Portable Gaming & Lock of the Week
Chris reviews the PlayStation Portal and uses it for remote FC 25 sessions. He announces his first “Lock of the Week”.
[12:11–14:41] Wrexham’s Growing Pains
Greg emphasizes that new signings need time to gel. They agree that Sheffield Wednesday is a must-win to avoid relegation pressure after tough early opponents like Southampton.
[14:42–16:59] Merchandise, Relegation Stakes & Spending
They joke about jersey purchases and discuss the pressure Wrexham faces after heavy summer spending.
[17:00–20:30] NFL Return & AFC South Talk
The show shifts to NFL. They react to Daniel Jones being named Colts starter over Anthony Richardson and analyze AFC South playoff odds via oddsmakers.
[20:31–25:06] Division Outlooks & Jaguars Skepticism
Greg and Chris debate the Texans, Titans, and Jaguars. They question Jacksonville’s ceiling despite promising young talent and note the division’s overall parity.
[25:07–28:18] Eagles Expectations & Injury Risks
Chris expresses confidence in the Eagles’ roster but worries about depth and injury luck repeating. They talk about key contributors and young defensive talent stepping up.
[28:19–31:27] Hard Knocks, Power Rankings & Buffalo
Chris endorses this year’s Hard Knocks featuring the Bills. ESPN ranks Philadelphia #1 in future power rankings, followed by Buffalo, Kansas City, and more.
[31:28–36:45] Eagles Offense & Draft Talk
They explore the Eagles’ depth at wide receiver, tight end concerns, and potential 2026 NFL Draft needs.
[36:46–38:52] QB3 Struggles & Draft Strategy
The battle for QB3 is uninspiring. Chris discusses his mock draft obsession and possible Eagles positional targets.
[38:53–41:29] Chiefs, Bills, and Super Bowl Outlook
Greg doubts this is the end for Kansas City. Chris notes oddsmakers’ win totals, with Buffalo as the favorite. They both hope for a Bills-Lions Super Bowl if Eagles miss out.
[41:30–45:13] Saquon Durability & Fantasy Drafts
Chris and Greg set Saquon Barkley’s projected games. Greg preps for a fantasy draft where Saquon is likely to fall to him at pick two.
[45:14–END] College Football Week Zero
They preview Kansas State vs. Iowa State in Dublin. They also highlight Hawaii’s season opener and nostalgic value.
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[00:18–03:18] Wrexham Transfer Talk and FC 25 Obsession
Chris dives into his Wrexham fandom, celebrating new signings like Kieffer Moore and rumored additions like Nathan Broadhead and Louis Koumas. He details his FC 25 career mode, building a dominant Wrexham squad while managing transfer budgets and loan-to-buy deals.
[03:19–06:18] Cup Competitions and Europa Dreams
Chris asks Greg what winning the Carabao Cup or FA Cup earns. Greg explains the FA Cup winner gets a Europa League spot. Chris is hyped about leading a League One Wrexham team into European competition and shares challenges with player contracts and finances in FC 25.
[06:19–08:29] Wrexham’s Real-World Squad Chemistry and Odds
They discuss how Wrexham’s real-world transfers may affect team chemistry, especially ahead of the season opener against Southampton. Chris notes Wrexham is a +365 underdog and locks in the over 2.5 goals as his bet of the week, citing odds from oddsmakers.
[08:30–11:10] Cameron Young’s Shocking PGA Win
Greg recounts how fellow bettor Mark hit a +6000 bet on Cameron Young to win the PGA tournament during a week they skipped their podcast. The win gives Mark a 60-unit boost and potentially revives his struggling season.
[11:11–13:50] Oddsmaker Props, Windass Snub, and Wrexham Anger
Chris vents about the oddsmakers’ top scorer props in the Championship, noting Josh Windass—who scored 15 goals last year—is absent from the list. Sam Smith and Ryan Hardy are listed despite likely not starting. Chris sees value in capitalizing on inaccurate odds.
[13:51–16:50] Streaming Service Fatigue and ESPN Bundle Woes
Chris and Greg discuss ESPN acquiring NFL Network and Red Zone in a deal that may lead to a $30 monthly ESPN streaming service. They debate the impact on platforms like YouTube TV and express frustration over how fragmented and expensive streaming has become.
[16:51–20:20] Subscription Overload and Streaming Regrets
They break down the costs of Hulu, Peacock, Netflix, and ESPN’s new pricing. Chris admits he misses the simplicity of traditional cable. Greg fears using budgeting apps that would reveal how many services he is blindly subscribed to.
[20:21–23:30] More Wrexham Updates and Season Expectations
Chris remains glued to Kumis rumors and hopes for a permanent transfer. Both agree that Wrexham should aim for a top-12 finish in the Championship to avoid relegation and stay competitive.
[23:31–26:40] American Football Returns and Hard Knocks Talk
Chris confesses he is more excited about soccer than NFL preseason. They discuss the Bills on Hard Knocks and how the team lacks personality without Stefon Diggs. Eagles fans may find more interest in the in-season NFC East Hard Knocks.
[26:41–29:50] Eagles Draft Praise and NFC Rivals Collapse
Chris and Greg praise the Eagles for landing Cooper DeJean and Quinyon Mitchell—both ranked in the NFL Top 100 as rookies.
[29:51–33:30] Defensive Player Odds and Sneaky Trade Moves
Eagles defenders rank high in Defensive Player of the Year odds, including Jalen Carter, DeJean, and Mitchell. Chris highlights the Eagles’ under-the-radar trade for Jacorian Bennett, a cornerback with elite coverage stats.
[33:31–End] Offensive Rookie Odds and Position Bias
Chris quizzes Greg on the top candidates for Offensive Rookie of the Year, including names like Ashton Jeanty, Cam Ward, and Shadour Sanders. They joke about long-shot linemen and note no offensive lineman has ever won the award.
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[00:19–04:19] Vacation Talk & NCAA Football Frustrations
Chris and Greg open with vacation chatter, complaining about back-to-back trips and how travel changes with kids. Chris shares a failed attempt to play NCAA College Football 26 due to expired cloud saves, instead binge-watching The Traitors season one.
[04:20–07:20] Phillies Trade Deadline Needs
The duo jumps into MLB trade deadline talk. Greg insists the Phillies need a reliable lefty bullpen arm.
[07:21–11:10] Brandon Marsh Debate & Stat Tirade
Chris and Greg debate Brandon Marsh’s underwhelming performance, citing his negative WAR and poor hitting against lefties. Greg rants about advanced baseball stats like WAR and BABIP, arguing eye tests matter more.
[11:11–14:24] Phillies Lineup Issues & Schwarber Praise
They criticize Bryson Stott’s inconsistency and call Max Kepler a locker-room disaster. Meanwhile, Kyle Schwarber’s 3.1 WAR season earns praise as a “vibes guy.” Both want Edmundo Sosa to get more at-bats over struggling starters.
[14:25–18:05] MLB Trade Targets Breakdown
Greg reviews top trade candidates: Eugenio Suárez’s power surge makes him highly coveted, Ryan O’Hearn could spark an Orioles shakeup, and Adolis García’s inconsistent bat may still draw offers. Cedric Mullins is seen as a strong outfield option for contenders.
[18:06–22:15] Surprise Trade Chips & Nationals Fire Sale
The Nationals' reportedly shopping Mackenzie Gore surprises Chris. They also discuss Sandy Alcantara’s post-Tommy John struggles and declining value despite Cy Young pedigree.
[22:16–26:05] WNBA All-Star Game Critique
The WNBA All-Star game gets slammed for being dominated by long-range shots, with Angel Reese and A’ja Wilson hoisting threes. Sabrina Ionescu’s four-point shot is noted, but Greg calls the game “boring gimmick basketball.”
[26:06–29:15] WNBA Standings & Team Outlooks
Chris and Greg debate the Liberty’s dominance and the Lynx’s rise. They express surprise at the Aces’ struggles and note oddsmakers have them at 23.5 wins—lower than expected. Caitlin Clark’s injury-riddled Fever season is also discussed.
[29:16–33:00] NFL Training Camp Drama
Training camp controversies take center stage. The Commanders upset Terry McLaurin by signing big-name players like Deebo Samuel but delaying his extension.
[33:01–36:15] Micah Parsons & Cowboys Contract Issues
Greg predicts Jerry Jones will finalize Micah Parsons’ deal just before opening day for media buzz. Both criticize Dallas for waiting, pointing out rising edge rusher salaries due to market resets from T.J. Watt and Myles Garrett.
[36:16–39:10] Caleb Williams Passing Goal Debate
Bears coach Ben Johnson’s goal of 70% completion for rookie QB Caleb Williams sparks debate. Chris fears turning him into a dink-and-dunk passer, while Greg argues he should be unleashed as a downfield playmaker.
[39:11–46:30] Wrexham Transfer Frenzy & FX Doc Talk
Chris updates Greg on Wrexham’s signings, including Ryan Hardie, Danny Ward, Liberto Cacace, George Thomason, and Josh Windass. They discuss the FX spinoff on a Mexican club and question the decision to release it mostly in Spanish, potentially alienating U.S. fans.
[46:31–End] Closing Thoughts & Soccer Odds
They wrap up discussing oddsmakers setting Wrexham as underdogs (+355) vs. Southampton. Chris notes how rare it is for a fan-favorite team not to be overvalued. Greg reflects on Wrexham’s National League betting days as much easier wins.
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[00:19–02:42] Technical Mishaps & Weather Warnings
The episode opens with Chris fumbling the recording and Greg describing ominous weather in his area. Multiple alerts are active, but things are under control.
[02:43–04:54] WNBA Expansion Comes to Philly
Chris and Greg react to Philadelphia finally receiving a WNBA franchise, set to debut in 2030.
[04:55–07:34] Team Name Ideas
They debate suggested names like Freedom, Nightmare, Rage, Revolution, Bells, Independence, and Broads. “Rage” is tied to a historic team Dawn Staley played for, but both agree most names sound like bad video game defaults. “Johns” is roundly mocked.
[07:35–09:54] Expansion Fees & Valuation
Chris mentions a $50M expansion fee and the Valkyries’ valuation at $500M—a 10x return. Greg laments being priced out of ownership and jokes about Chris secretly running the Philly franchise.
[09:55–13:19] All-Star Draft & Caitlin Clark
They review the WNBA All-Star teams drafted by Caitlin Clark and Napheesa Collier. Chris highlights Clark’s popularity and absence from the Olympic team. Greg notes peer resentment likely stems from the media spotlight Clark receives.
[13:20–17:56] WNBA Player Rivalries & Reese vs. Clark
Greg suggests that the Caitlin Clark–Angel Reese rivalry is media-driven. Chris recalls a recent Reese ISO play gone wrong. They agree Clark is currently the superior player and commend the strength of this rookie class.
[17:57–20:47] WNBA Viewership & Recording Habits
Chris shares his list of WNBA teams set to auto-record. He struggles to recall why he’s recording Connecticut Sun games and admits he rarely watches them. They discuss how DVR features allow for easy access but also unintentional clutter.
[20:48–22:45] Sparks Outlook & Brink’s Return
They explore sportsbook win totals for the Los Angeles Sparks (14.5 wins) and discuss Cam Brink’s injury status. Chris jokes about an overly chatty DoorDash delivery driver, while Greg expresses doubt that Brink’s return will elevate the team much.
[22:46–25:54] Draft Lottery & Team Needs
Chris explains the WNBA’s aggressive draft lottery odds. Seattle currently holds the Sparks' pick, possibly through the Kelsey Plum trade. They simulate the lottery a few times, with Minnesota winning twice.
[25:55–29:03] Expansion & Talent Dilution Concerns
The hosts discuss how adding three expansion teams—Philly, Cleveland, and Detroit—could dilute league talent. Still, they acknowledge the Valkyries’ surprising competitiveness and the growing popularity of women’s basketball.
[29:04–31:41] Valkyries’ Rise & Aces’ Decline
Chris is surprised that the Valkyries share a record with the Fever and Aces. Greg suggests the Aces’ problems may stem from the Kelsey Plum trade. They touch on the context around her move, including her divorce and desire to leave Vegas.
[31:42–35:18] Flyers Free Agency, NHL Video Games & Sim Franchises
Greg explains that the Flyers lost Russian prospect Maxim Shabanov to the Islanders.
[38:04–41:45] Video Game Habits & NCAA Hype
Chris praises Expedition 33 as his favorite game in years and describes his Call of Duty burnout. Greg’s excited for the new NCAA Football game,
[41:46–43:45] NCAA Basketball & Final Thoughts
They’re hopeful that NCAA Basketball returns soon. Greg reminisces about dominating with St. Joe’s in past games.
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[00:19–03:49] Summer Weather
Chris and Greg open with complaints about summer heat and severe thunderstorms. They bond over new homeowner concerns, especially about large backyard trees during storms.
[03:50–06:19] Red Panda Injury at WNBA Game
They discuss the legendary halftime performer Red Panda, who recently broke her wrist during a WNBA routine. Chris praises her long career and notes she’s in her 50s.
[06:20–10:49] Wembanyama’s Risky Bicycle Kick
Chris brings up a viral clip of Victor Wembanyama attempting a bicycle kick. Both hosts are horrified by the risk involved and compare Wemby’s frame to a collapsing Power Rangers villain.
[10:50–14:19] Shea’s Mega Extension & NBA Salaries
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s $71.3M/year extension is examined. Chris expects he’ll decline the final year for a better deal due to the next CBA.
[14:20–18:19] Highest-Paid Athletes: Ronaldo, Messi, Canelo
Chris quizzes Greg on global earners: Ronaldo ($214M), Messi ($168.5M), and Canelo Alvarez ($73M) top the list. Greg jokes about needing just 1% of that money.
[18:20–21:49] Ayton Joins Lakers & Luka Fatigue
They react to Deandre Ayton landing with the Lakers. Chris thinks Ayton loves money more than basketball. Reports suggest LeBron and Austin Reaves dislike playing with Luka Doncic due to his ball-dominant style.
[21:50–26:19] West Power Rankings & Offseason Moves
OKC is favored to win the title, thanks to a deep roster and Shea’s extension. Houston adds Kevin Durant and other vets. Denver swaps MPJ for Cam Johnson and adds Bruce Brown. The Nuggets are considered deeper and better positioned.
[26:20–30:04] Pacers Decline & Bucks Stretch Dame
The Pacers lose Haliburton and Myles Turner. Milwaukee surprisingly waives and stretches Damian Lillard, agreeing to pay him $22.3M/year over five years.
[30:05–33:49] Sixers Roster Changes
Gershon Yabusele leaves for the Knicks; the Sixers replace him with Trendon Watford, a solid passer and friend of Tyrese Maxey. Chris praises the move but says the power forward spot remains unresolved. They joke about Greg stepping in as a 6’1" stretch four.
[33:50–35:49] Grimes & Edgecombe’s Jersey Number
Quentin Grimes is expected to re-sign. They discuss No. 3 pick Vijay Edgecombe’s unfortunate jersey choice—77. Chris and Greg agree it’s a “non-basketball number” and lament its aesthetics and awkwardness.
[35:50–41:19] McCain Summer League
They question Jared McCain’s absence from Summer League, saying he hasn’t proven enough to skip it. Chris wanted to see him and Edgecombe paired up.
[41:20–43:19] Broome Pick & Drummond Disappointment
Johni Broome is viewed as a good rebounder but has poor athleticism. Chris points out his vertical is lower than a 456-pound lineman. They reminisce about Andre Drummond’s once-promising return and now hope the team trades him.
[43:20–46:19] Dame Free Agency
They discuss potential landing spots for Dame Lillard: Minnesota or Golden State. Greg prefers the Warriors for nostalgic reasons, calling the possible lineup a “2K18 dream team.”
[46:20–50:54] Knicks Hire Mike Brown
The episode ends with a critique of the Knicks hiring Mike Brown after firing Thibodeau. Chris calls Brown a two-time Coach of the Year and four-time fired head coach.
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00:00–01:18 – Chris returns to the show and jokes with Greg about last week’s episode and the nostalgic Robert Covington debate.
01:18–02:45 – They pivot into the NBA Finals, specifically Game 6, which the Pacers won decisively over the Thunder. Greg is surprised by how dominant Indiana was.
02:45–03:58 – Discussion on Oklahoma City’s struggles, particularly how they didn’t appear urgent, whereas Indiana played with desperation.
03:58–07:11 – Chris critiques Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA), suggesting he's miscast as a point guard. They discuss his turnover-heavy performance and limited passing impact.
07:11–10:19 – Chris lists odds for Game 7 (Thunder -285, Pacers +235), and Greg favors the Thunder due to home-court advantage. Chris argues a Thunder loss would be more interesting.
10:19–11:31 – Indiana’s roster construction is praised for its deviation from the "super team" model. Siakam’s acquisition is seen as impactful but not superstar-defining.
11:31–13:07 – KD trade rumors: Phoenix allegedly turned down a deal with Minnesota. KD is reportedly forcing his way to a Texas team. San Antonio emerges as a logical fit.
13:07–15:34 – Orlando’s shocking jump in odds following the Desmond Bane trade is debated. The move distorted trade value market-wide.
15:34–22:41 – Discussion turns to draft chaos: Ace Bailey refuses to work out unless guaranteed the No. 3 pick. Speculation arises that bad advice from his inexperienced agent is hurting his stock. Chris and Greg break down sportsbook odds (Flagg -100,000 for No. 1, Harper No. 2, Edgecombe No. 3) and worry Bailey will slide to Washington, limiting his development.
22:41–25:33 – They analyze potential Sixers moves and lament the franchise’s awkward spot. Chris dislikes taking another guard like Edgecombe and floats possible trade-down scenarios.
25:33–27:37 – The Caitlin Clark saga is unpacked. Greg believes the attention and physical play she’s facing is part jealousy, part intensity of her stardom. Chris ranks Clark as the WNBA’s No. 2 behind A’ja Wilson, with Collier also in tier two.
27:37–29:12 – The duo agrees Collier is an elite but underappreciated talent due to Minnesota’s market. They highlight how attention is mostly on Clark and Wilson, leaving others like Stewart and Ogwumike in the shadows.
29:12–32:36 – College prospects like Juju Watkins and Hannah Hidalgo would be top picks but aren’t draft-eligible yet due to age limits. Greg and Chris criticize the outdated eligibility rules.
32:36–36:13 – They assess current WNBA title contenders. Greg favors the Liberty for their talent depth. Chris points out the upcoming CBA means nearly the entire league will hit free agency, making next season’s landscape unpredictable.
36:13–37:16 – The fall of the Las Vegas Aces is discussed. Trading Kelsey Plum is considered a mistake. Chris wonders when Cam Brink will return.
37:16–39:01 – Expansion talk: Chris wants a WNBA team in Philly. They discuss the need for competitive expansion and praise how the NHL has managed team transitions like the Golden Knights and Utah’s rebrand from Arizona.
39:01–40:52 – Greg explains the Coyotes’ move to Utah. Chris is surprised and amused by Greg's growing neighborly interactions. They wrap up with lighthearted banter.
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Chris is out this week so Mark Koleda from Bettors Delight joins Greg to discuss a litany of topics across the sports world as they get closer to the summer doldrums.
3:30 The guys dig into the Stanley Cup Final and breakdown the embarrassing performance in game 3 form the Oilers and take a trip down memory lane for the Flyers.
18:04 The NBA Finals are tied at 1-1 and the guys dip a little into that series and then discuss a trade scenario for Jaylen Brown.
24:45 They then dug into an oldie but a goodie as to whether Robert Covington was ever good at basketball.
27:20 An abrupt International retirement of a Polish Superstar has Mark questioning the direction of Polish soccer, plus reaction to Landon Donovan's comments on the USMNT.
35:00 The US Open is this weekend, and the guys give their thoughts on Oakmont and what to expect from the 3rd Major of the season.
Bonus dark Horses in the PDC World Cup this weekend.
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[00:00–04:00] Opening Banter + Personal Chaos
Chris and Greg kick things off with lighthearted chatter and Greg’s chaotic day involving dogs, holes, broken glass, and a work Zoom call gone wrong.
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