As the host of ABC's Take Five ZAN ROWE has interviewed hundreds of people and is so beloved as a conversationalist that just before this episode, she was giving a talk in the building where I record about how to be a good interviewer. No pressure! We chat about how Zan taunted me online about the fact that she was watching Jamiroquai in Adelaide and I wasn't, we learn what makes for a good international travel itinerary and how Zan's love for gardening has opened her up to a raft of important life lessons.

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