This episode was recorded in the pre-pandemic days. But I think we all need a break from that stuff, so here it is. In this episode, I talked to my friend Rylend Grant, a professional Hollywood screenwriter and member of the Angel City Zen Center. Topics range from Zen in the entertainment business, to entertainment in the Zen business, and even a bit about diversity and inclusion in Zen. Enjoy! Or, should I say "Zen-joy?"