Podcast Title: 5.02.25 CRU with Nancy Grace: Stabbed 20 Times: Ellen Greenberg’s Case, a Changed Ruling, and Sean Combs Rejected Plea

Today, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum expose what they call one of the most disturbing miscarriages of justice in recent memory. Nancy details the tragic case of Ellen Greenberg, a young teacher found with 20 stab wounds, including 10 in her back; yet authorities labeled her death a suicide.The duo calls for the medical examiner to come forward following the pressure to change the opinion. Nancy and Sheryl discuss the parental lawsuits, alleged manipulation of medical findings, and secret meetings involving state officials. Last but not least, Nancy and Sheryl give the latest on the Sean Combs, a.k.a Diddy case. Following a rejected plea, they break down what trial stands to look like starting May 5th, 2025. 

Nancy’s book: What Happened to Ellen?: An American Miscarriage of Justice is available now. All proceeds will go to  National Center Missing Exploited Children - NCMC

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:10) Latest in the courts 
• (0:30) The Ellen Greenberg case 
• (4:00) Nancy breaks down the legal injustice in the Ellen Greenberg case  
• (4:45) The role of the medical examiner  
• (6:00) Writing the book - twice, to gain awareness in Ellen’s case 
• (7:30) Public awareness and media advocacy 
• (11:00) The secret meeting and immunity 
• (13:00) Medical examiner reverses ruling in Ellen Greenberg’s death
• (14:00) The New England serial killer
• (17:30) “Swans don’t swim in sewers.”
• (19:00) FOIA challenges
• (21:00) Sean Combs a.k.a Diddy rejects the plea deal
• (23:30) Sean Combs trial starts May 5th,2025
• (25:30) Predictions of the trial start
• (27:00) “C’s get degrees.” 
• (27:30) Final thoughts

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guest Bio and Links:

Victor Hill is the former Sheriff of Clayton County, Georgia, known for his tough-on-crime policies and bold leadership style. Despite facing multiple legal challenges, Hill remains a vocal critic of politicized justice and a passionate advocate for reform within the criminal justice system. He is the author of The Vigilante Sheriff and co-host of a podcast with his brother.

Vigilante Sheriff: The Truth about Corrupt Prosecutors Weaponizing the Legal System

Resources:  

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum sits down with Victor Hill, former Sheriff of Clayton County, Georgia, for a powerful and personal Zone 7 episode. They look back on some unforgettable moments from Hill’s career, like a high-stakes bank robbery, and explore how his early love for Batman shaped his approach to justice. Hill opens up about his time as Clayton County Sheriff, the tough decisions he made, the legal battles he fought, and the 18 months he spent in federal prison. Through it all, he found a way to keep learning, keep growing, and keep showing up for people, even from behind prison walls.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:30) Sheryl welcomes guest, Victor Hill to Zone 7
• (1:00) The memorable bank robbery 
• (2:30) The significance of the Batman challenge coin 
• (4:30)  ”You know, murder is the ultimate theft. It's a theft of which there can be no restitution.”
• (7:00) The sheriff's election and assassination of Derwin Brown on Dec. 15, 2000
• (12:30) The indictment and media portrayal
• (15:00) Indictments, grand juries & lawfare tactics
• (21:30) Facing a 37-count RICO indictment
• (24:00) Political indictments and election timing
• (25:00) Understanding the RICO charges
• (29:00) Thoughts on community policing - real talk from the front lines
• (34:00) The misunderstanding of officer demeanor & crime control
• (40:30) Federal prison - brotherhood, books, and becoming the student
• (43:00) “If you send sheep to a lion’s den, they’ll be devoured. If you send a lion - it’s a brotherhood.”
• (49:00) “ Save yourself. You don't owe these people anymore. You've given them everything.” -Catwoman, Batman, Dark Knight Rises 
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:

• Email: [email protected]
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the tragic death of Ellen Greenberg, a first-grade teacher whose death was ruled a suicide despite evidence pointing to murder.

Grace breaks down major red flags, including troubling forensic details and mistakes made by Philadelphia police. The duo also discuss the Bryan Kohberger case, where the defense plans to use autism as part of its legal strategy and what that could mean for the trial.

Nancy’s book: What Happened to Ellen?: An American Miscarriage of Justice is available now. All proceeds will go to  National Center for Missing and Exploited Children - NCMC

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (1:00) The autism defense in court - The Bryan Kohberger 
• (5:30) The Ellen Greenberg case
• (9:30) Ellen’s final day 
• (15:00) The closed-door meeting 
• (17:30) Politics, immunity, and the missing video 
• (22:00) Closing thoughts 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guest Bio and Links:

Karla Knight Deese is the elected coroner of Lancaster County, SC, and founder of the first-ever Mounted Response Unit within a coroner’s office. A certified medicolegal death investigator and educator, she’s changed laws, pioneered team-based approaches, and turned rescue horses into federally protected deputies. Karla has proved how “what’s old is new again”.

Connect with Karla Knight Deese on LinkedIn @Karla Deese, D-ABMDI

Resources:  

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by Karla Knight Deese, the coroner of Lancaster County, South Carolina, who made history by creating the first-ever Mounted Response Unit in a coroner’s office. Karla explains how a difficult river search led to the idea, how rescue horses were trained and sworn in as deputies, and how they now help find both missing people and the deceased. She also talks about how her work helps shape public health policy and how she handles one of the toughest parts of the job: delivering death notifications. Karla has proved how “what’s old is new again”, and why horses, dogs, medics, and compassion all belong on the front lines of forensic work.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:10) Sheryl welcomes guest, and Chief Coroner, Karla Knight Deese
• (3:00) The tragedy that sparked the movement
• (5:00) Why horses can go where humans can’t
• (11:00)  ”Our team is built of horses who are rescued. Now they're being trained to use in rescue missions, so their work is definitely not done, and their worth is now highlighted exponentially through our group.”
• (13:30) Why federal protection for horses matters
• (16:00) Karla’s path to becoming a Coroner
• (23:00) Impactful cases that change law and public health
• (27:00) Using death data to save lives
• (30:00) The emotional toll of death notifications
• (41:30) “ There are a few who envy me. They wanna know what they have to do to get my job to be who I am. It's only death. How hard can it be? They say, here I silently reply. Take it all. Every festering remnant of the people no one cared about in life, much less death. All the broken children who will never know that I grieved for them, take it all. Just leave me my car key so I can get home permanently. Somebody else can listen to the bullshit. Death loves dispute. He never shuts up.”  -Joseph Scott Morgan 
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:

• Email: [email protected]
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the recent mass shooting at Florida State University, digging into the motive, the method, and the impact. They dissect the systemic failures, the overlooked warning signs, and the questions you should be asking. 

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:10) Sherly and Nancy dedicate CRU to the recent FSU shooting
• (1:00) Two people dead, six injured  
• (1:30) When the unthinkable repeats 
• (4:30) Shooter used sheriff deputy mom’s weapon  
• (4:45) “Had to be a swipe at his mom” -Nancy Grace
• (6:30) Ripple effect mass shootings have
• (10:00) Intentionality around the time of shooting
• (17:00) “I don't know the answer, but asking why and trying to figure out what was going on in his mind is like going in your crazy aunt's attic and trying to make sense of it.” -Nancy Grace
• (20:00) Support goes out to victims families
• (20:30) The power of prayer  

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a three-part podcast series dedicated to understanding how serial killers form, and how we can stop them before they strike again. Hosted by award-winning crime scene investigator Sheryl McCollum, each episode features a guest expert who brings unique expertise into the psychology, behavior, and patterns of serial offenders.

Guest Bio and Links:

David Quinn is a retired Atlanta Police Department homicide detective and a co-host and producer of the true crime TV series "ATL Homicide" on TV One. He was promoted to homicide detective in 2000 and worked on numerous cases for Fulton County. He has over 30 years of experience in law enforcement, including time as a beat cop and a homicide detective. He is currently involved in the true crime series "ATL Homicide," where he and his former partner, Vince Velazquez, discuss their experiences solving some of Atlanta's most difficult cases.

Connect with David Quinn on IG @david.quinn56

Aeman Presley is a currently incarcerated serial killer who is serving life sentences for four murders committed in Georgia. Before his crimes, Presley worked as an actor and performer, appearing in commercials and on television. Now, from prison, he shares his story in an effort to help law enforcement and society understand the psychological trajectory that led to his violence. 

Phil Chalmers is a 40 year American Criminal Profiler, true crime writer, and host of the Dennis Quaid owned podcast “Where The Bodies Are Buried.” His live trainings are legendary in the law enforcement world, as he trains police officers, the FBI, probation officers, school administrators, and many other professionals. You may have seen Phil on A&E’s Killer Kids, or Fox’s Crime Watch Daily. He has interviewed hundreds of violent killers, including serial killers, school shooters, mass murderers, family annihilators, and spree killers. Names you might know on his interview list include Charles Manson, The Son of Sam, BTK, The Hillside Strangler, The Gainesville Ripper, The Zodiac Copycat, The Smiley Face Killer, and the Amityville Horror Killer.

Learn more about at Phil Chalmers at his website, on IG @philechalmerprofiler and his podcast - Where The Bodies Are Buried

Resources:

Part 1 - The Anatomy of a Serial Killer: Psychology, Profiling, Prevention

Part 2 - The Anatomy of a Serial Killer: Inside Aeman Presley’s Hunt  

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum and Phil Chalmers come together for pt. three of Preventing a Serial Killer. Former Detective David Quinn sits down with Aeman Presley for the first time since their unforgettable six-hour interrogation. For Quinn, this wasn’t just another case; it was the final chapter of a 30-year career in homicide, one that forever changed how he views justice, redemption, and even the death penalty. He reflects on the spiritual moments that guided the investigation, calling them nothing short of divine intervention. Aeman opens up about the pain and trauma of his upbringing, the influences that shaped his descent into violence, and the regret he carries every day. Together, they discuss the human side of tragedy, how community, media, and personal choices intertwine to create paths that sometimes end in darkness, and how, even then, healing and understanding are still possible. 

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:15) Sheryl introduces Detective David Quinn to the conversation
• (2:00) Aeman’s reflections
• (4:30) The impact of growing up in a violent environment
• (7:30) Six hours of interrogation and confession 
• (8:45) “For two hours we were talking nothing but life.” -Det. David Quinn
• (11:00) God moments and case breakthroughs
• (19:00) The arrest - a split-second mistake
• (22:00) Aeman’s hotel revelation 
• (24:00) The decision not to discard the gun
• (26:00) The train station incident 
• (29:00) Reflections on the victim's lives
• (33:00) The case’s profound impact
• (37:00) David Quinn on the death penalty
• (41:25)  ”Your life is fluid, brother. Your life is meaningful.” -Det. David Quinn 
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:

• Email: [email protected]
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode of "Zone 7," Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the latest developments in the Rex Heuermann and Lori Vallow cases.

 Sheryl checks in live from the Hamptons, describing the quiet tension in a neighborhood trying to move on. She talks about Rex Heuermann’s house, now partially hidden as the family packs up and prepares to leave. Nancy and Sheryl question what this move means—whether it’s the first step toward tearing the house down—and why that could pose a problem for the trial.

They stress the importance of jurors seeing the space where the crimes occurred to fully understand the case.

Nancy then shifts to the latest on Lori Vallow. Representing herself, Lori faces charges for the murders of her children and former husband.

Nancy and Sheryl walk through the case and explain how Lori’s unusual behavior and beliefs played a role in the crimes.

Previous Episodes on These Cases:

LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) Panel: A Zone 7 Discussion

LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) Full Panel 2

To Execute or Not | The Financial, Moral, and Emotional Weight of the Death Penalty with Kirk Nurmi

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (1:00) Rex Heuermann’s case latest 
• (7:00) Why preserving evidence matters 
• (10:00) Sheryl describes the signs in the neighborhood of Rex Heuermann
• (11:30) Lori Vallow's trial and family dynamics 
• (13:45)  ”A man that represents himself has the fool for her client, and that is for sure.”  
• (17:00) The Chad Daybell connection 
• (20:00) Sex appeal in the courtroom - debating the jury’s bias 
• (25:00) Final thoughts and wrap up 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a three-part podcast series dedicated to understanding how serial killers form, and how we can stop them before they strike again. Hosted by award-winning crime scene investigator Sheryl McCollum, each episode features a guest expert who brings unique expertise into the psychology, behavior, and patterns of serial offenders.

Guest Bio and Links:

Phil Chalmers is a 40 year American Criminal Profiler, true crime writer, and host of the Dennis Quaid owned podcast “Where The Bodies Are Buried.” His live trainings are legendary in the law enforcement world, as he trains police officers, the FBI, probation officers, school administrators, and many other professionals. You may have seen Phil on A&E’s Killer Kids, or Fox’s Crime Watch Daily. He has interviewed hundreds of violent killers, including serial killers, school shooters, mass murderers, family annihilators, and spree killers. Names you might know on his interview list include Charles Manson, The Son of Sam, BTK, The Hillside Strangler, The Gainesville Ripper, The Zodiac Copycat, The Smiley Face Killer, and the Amityville Horror Killer.

Listeners can learn more about at Phil Chalmers at his website, on IG @philechalmerprofiler and his podcast - Where The Bodies Are Buried

Aeman Presley is a currently incarcerated serial killer who is serving life sentences for four murders committed in Georgia. Before his crimes, Presley worked as an actor and performer, appearing in commercials and on television. Now, from prison, he shares his story in an effort to help law enforcement and society understand the psychological trajectory that led to his violence.  

Resources:

Part 1 - The Anatomy of a Serial Killer: Psychology, Profiling, Prevention  

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum and Phil Chalmers talk with Aeman Presley as he recounts his descent into violence; from an aspiring actor with a troubled past to a convicted serial killer. Aeman reveals the psychological battle he’s fought since childhood, marked by fatherlessness, gang affiliation, and undiagnosed mental health issues. He talks openly about his early life in Chicago, his attempts to pursue a professional life in acting, and the psychotic break that led to a series of brutal murders in the Atlanta area. Aeman walks listeners through his inner monologue before the killings, the warped logic he believed justified his actions, and the moment of psychological rupture when the “demon” within took over. This is not a glamorization, it’s a rare firsthand look into the psyche of someone who once viewed murder as both necessity and compulsion.

 

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:10) Intro - On the line with Aeman Presley
• (2:30) Presley's early life and path to crime
• (3:30) Military discharge and mental health struggles 
• (5:30) Chasing an acting career in Atlanta and LA
• (7:30) Financial strain and the turn to crime
• (10:00) Aeman’s first killing - inside the Kmart parking lot
• (15:00) Realizations in the aftermath - would it have continued?
• (16:00) Aeman describes the appetite for violence during movies
• (19:00) Why prison changed Aeman’s perspective
• (23:00) The last victim - a break in pattern 
• (29:00)  ”It takes a village to raise a child. Well, the village that raised me were criminals, gang bangers, killers, and murderers.” -Aeman Presley
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:

• Email: [email protected]
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Florida teen kidnapped and possibly dismembered after meeting man from social media. Miranda Corsette, 16, was lured through a social media app to meet 35-year-old Steven Gress.  If you know anything about this case please call the tipline: ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT (727) 893-7780 or Text: Send “SPPD” to TIP411

Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum dissect the tragic case of Miranda Corsette, a 16-year-old girl from Gulfport, Florida. Miranda, who recently lost her parents and moved in with her grandmother, was targeted by a 37-year-old man she met online. Nancy recounts the horrifying details of Miranda's four-day torture and eventual murder, including shocking video evidence captured by a neighbor's ring camera. Nancy and Sheryl break down how this could become a heartbreaking “no body, no crime” case, where the lack of physical remains threatens to silence justice for a girl whose pain was all too real.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:15) Sheryl starts CRU with the tragic case of 16-year-old Miranda Corsette 
• (1:30) Nancy details out the crime - Valentine’s day date
• (3:30) Ring video evidence 
• (4:00) Nancy details out the pool ball and the cellophane  
• (8:00) Possible questions of confession and discovery
• (9:00) The relationship with fellow neighbors with the perpetrator
• (10:00) The harpoon gun incident  
• (14:30) “If this is not a death penalty case, I don’t know what is.” -Nancy Grace 
• (17:00) Closing remarks 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a three-part podcast series dedicated to understanding how serial killers form, and how we can stop them before they strike again. Hosted by award-winning crime scene investigator Sheryl McCollum, each episode features a guest expert who brings unique expertise into the psychology, behavior, and patterns of serial offenders.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with Phil Chalmers, a seasoned criminal profiler whose life’s work has taken him face-to-face with some of the most notorious killers in American history. Phil shares what it’s really like to sit across from people like Charles Manson and David Berkowitz, known as the Son of Sam. Today, Sheryl and Phil go deeper than infamous names; it’s about understanding why people kill. Phil breaks down the roots of violent behavior, pointing to patterns like fatherlessness, childhood trauma, and relentless bullying. He also challenges long-held assumptions about what a serial killer looks like, arguing that the modern offender is often far from the stereotypical white male.

Guest Bio and Links:

Phil Chalmers is a 40 year American Criminal Profiler, true crime writer, and host of the Dennis Quaid owned podcast “Where The Bodies Are Buried.” His live trainings are legendary in the law enforcement world, as he trains police officers, the FBI, probation officers, school administrators, and many other professionals. You may have seen Phil on A&E’s Killer Kids, or Fox’s Crime Watch Daily. He has interviewed hundreds of violent killers, including serial killers, school shooters, mass murderers, family annihilators, and spree killers. Names you might know on his interview list include Charles Manson, The Son of Sam, BTK, The Hillside Strangler, The Gainesville Ripper, The Zodiac Copycat, The Smiley Face Killer, and the Amityville Horror Killer.

Listeners can learn more about at Phil Chalmers at his website, on IG @philechalmerprofiler and his podcast - Where The Bodies Are Buried  

Resources:

Inside the Mind of a Teen Killer

Serial Killers: The Experience Tour

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:20) Sheryl introduces guest,  Phil Chalmers to the listeners 
• (2:00) Phil gives a brief background of himself and his work
• (3:00) Inside the mind of a serial killer
• (5:00) Twelve myths of serial killers 
• (11:00) Bullying and the path to school shootings
• (12:00) 13 reasons kids kill
• (13:30) The number one reason teens kill
• (15:00) Myths in serial killer profiling
• (18:30) Phil discusses reasons he works with serial killers
• (20:30) Background of Amon Pressley 
• (23:30) What to look for to connect serial killer cases
• (25:30) The signature vs. MO distinction 
• (30:15)  ”The MO changes.” - Phil Chalmers 
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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