Matt and Sophia fluff up the Pillow Fort on The Nightly.

Sweater-weather vibes lead to big-life tinkering: Sophia’s seven-hour declutter sparks a woodworking itch (stool-building classes and bowl-turning dreams), while Matt wrestles a stubborn thermostat and admits he’s a “try + instructions” handyman. The two drift through moving-season fantasies—Zillow vs. Zoopla, flats vs. apartments, the pain of bedframes, and why a pre-winter purge beats spring cleaning. Finally, Sophia unpacks the internet’s latest redemption-arc gamble: Ned Fulmer’s Rock Bottom return, opening with a raw, therapy-style talk with his estranged wife—and what to make of a comeback that starts at confession.

What you’ll hear:

• Cozy check-in: first cold snap, sweater weather, and dead smart-thermostats
• DIY & making: beginner woodworking classes, bowl-turning goals, and “can I hang a shelf above my bed?” courage
• Move math: Zillow/Zoopla snooping, beloved-but-bulky furniture, roommates vs. solo living
• Declutter logic: why a pre-winter cleanout makes hibernation season happier
• Pop-culture debrief: a YouTuber’s public atonement and the ethics of monetizing a “rock bottom”

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