Carsten Gregerson shares his background in the embedded systems industry and how he got into it. He discusses his work at Nabto, a company that provides remote access to small devices using peer-to-peer technology. Carsten then delves into the topic of real-time operating systems (RTOS) and the battle for open-source RTOS. He explains the difference between a real-time operating system and a high-end operating system and how the introduction of the internet into embedded devices has increased the need for RTOS. He also discusses the consolidation happening in the industry with the acquisition of RTOS by big tech companies. Jacob shares his thoughts on Zephyr, an open-source RTOS, and its place in the market. He also explores the challenges of adopting Zephyr for embedded developers and the potential future of embedded development with the integration of interpreters and AI.