No-one knew anything about Dubstep in 2005. Almost no-one in London but definitely no-one in Denver, or so it would've been reasonable to assume but Nicole Cacciavillano launched her Dubstep night Submission that year and runs it to this day, now at her own venue The Black Box. It's fair to say that Nicole has been extremely influential in the development of the music scene in Denver, in her capacity as a promoter running her own parties, consulting for larger corporate venues, and since 2016 as a venue owner herself.

We cover topics including the running of venues generally and in a pandemic situation, how to build a music scene from the ground up, the divergence of the UK and North American bass music scenes, and how Skrillex appeared fully-formed apparently from nowhere.

Nicole is a unique person and this is a deeply interesting and engaging conversation. Get involved!

Quick note to say that some of the audio in this week's episode is a bit glitchy - rest assured that we will be back to exemplary sound quality next week.

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