At this point the argument over NFTs probably seems a bit tired. But the fact is that very often the real benefits, theoretical though they might be, can be absent from the conversation as a whole.

When Jacques Greene effectively sold the publishing rights to a track via the blockchain he was hinting at a world which currently doesn't exist, but the reality of which would unquestionably be a huge improvement to musicians. That is a world where contracts automatically execute without the need for legacy institutions which operate with extreme opacity and questionable efficacy.

So clearly the subject needed to be addressed during this conversation, and on this episode we get fairly deep on all that stuff.

Additionally to the NFT debate, we cover topics including the minutiae of 808 kickdrums, his experience with a major label, and the effect of high and low rents on the productivity of musicians.

This was a super-interesting conversation with someone with whom I have many mutual friends but had previously never talked to directly. You will enjoy it!

On Hotflush and affiliated labels.... a reminder for last week's drop of the James Welsh Sound Exchange Remix of Jayson Wynters' Lost City.

This week we have Biemsix dropping the second half of his latest EP with 'Highway High Way Too High' - proper techno.

And over on YAEL trip, Glaskin present their full remixes EP featuring me + Etapp Kyle, Baby T, Uncrat and Isaac Reuben... also out on Friday.

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