Does John Wayne Gacy still haunt this earth? In Ghostly’s thirtieth episode, Pat and Rebecca explore the life, death, and possible afterlife of serial killer (and clown!) John Wayne Gacy. They were joined in this live episode by Nick Mataragas, the last man to have played Gacy on the TV show Ghost Adventures. Special thanks to Lawlor’s on Archer for hosting Ghostly and The Southside Podfest and thank you to Memoriam Development for organizing such a great festival!

Who was John Wayne Gacy? What were his crimes? What was his childhood like? How did he become a clown? What happened in his personal and professional life, and how did that fit with his criminal life? How did the police catch him? Did he confess? Who were people that talked to him in jail? How did he die? What happened after his death? Where is his brain? Does his spirit still haunt this earth?

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This episode we took questions and stories LIVE while recording our episode. Hear several spooky stories about Lawlor’s, the very bar where we did the recording. Have a story or question of your own (or someone you know)? Send your story or question to [email protected] and we might read it on the podcast. You can also email us individually at [email protected] or [email protected]. You could be on a future episode of Ghostly!

Listen to Pat give John Gacy’s history. We learn about his childhood and upbringing as well as some horrific things that happened to Gacy and how he got his start doing horrific things himself. Pat also covers how he stalked and murdered his victims, and then explains how he was finally caught.

Time for the debate! Rebecca tells several stories of researchers who met with Gacy before his execution and who claim to be haunted by him after his death. Nick Mataragas tells us what it was like to dress up as Pogo, one of Gacy’s clown alter-egos, and how it was on the set of Ghost Adventures at Old Joliet Prison. Then Nick joins Pat on #teamskeptic to debate Rebecca and most of the bar on #teambeliever. Who do you believe?

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Music for this episode was performed by Michael Rivers
Intro: “III. Allegro moderato from Gargoyles” by Lowell Liebermann
Outro: “Dream Images (Love-Death Music)” by George Crumb
Bumper: “Ghost Waltz” by Lowell Liebermann