Did the Devil Make Arne Johnson do it? The Conjuring The Devil Made Me do it is the Ed and Lorraine Warren case of legal possession.What is the real story? In 1981, Arne Johnson claimed he was possessed when he killed Alan Bono. But was he? Listen to the debate and then you decide – was he possessed by a demon?

What happened to make David Glatzel’s family believe he was possessed? What did Ed and Lorraine Warren to do help the Glatzel family? Did Arne Johnson ask the demon possessing David to enter him? What happened after the exorcisms? Did Arne display evidence of being possessed? What happened the day of the killing? Did the court allow the possession defense? Was he being controlled by a demon?

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Pat explores the history of the Glatzels and Arne Johnson. Ed and Lorraine Warren have one story. Some of Glatzels have another. What is fact and what is under debate? Rebecca discusses the differences between The Conjuring 3 and the real story behind the movie.

Rebecca and Pat debate the story told by the Glatzels and the Warrens. Was David Glatzel possessed? Was Arne Johnson?

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Sources for this Week’s Episode
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Arne_Cheyenne_Johnson
Decider: https://decider.com/2021/06/04/conjuring-devil-made-me-do-it-true-story-arne-johnson/
New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/1981/03/23/nyregion/defendant-in-a-murder-puts-the-devil-on-trial.html
Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/conjuring-3-devil-made-me-do-it-true-story-real-life-arne-johnson-1597192
USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2021/06/03/the-conjuring-fact-vs-fiction-devil-made-me-do-it/7510282002/
Courant: https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-connecticut-the-conjuring-real-murder-20210602-n4p7e6bawrdxtczxhs66dz7bxq-story.html
Syfy: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/conjuring-devil-made-me-do-it-real-murder-case-true-crime
Digital Spy: https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a36529802/conjuring-3-true-story-arne-johnson-now/
Mental Floss: https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/647247/the-conjuring-the-devil-made-me-do-it-true-story
TV Insider: https://www.tvinsider.com/1001981/shock-docs-the-devil-made-me-do-it-discovery-plus-conjuring-3/

Music for this episode was performed by Michael Rivers
Intro: “III. Allegro moderato from Gargoyles” by Lowell Liebermann
Outro: “Dream Images (Love-Death Music)” by George Crumb
Bumper: “Ghost Waltz” by Lowell Liebermann

“Pat Facts” and “Ghost Story” themes by Mondo
“Time for a Debate” theme by Gail Gallagher gailgallaghermusic.com