Dr. Darrell Bock returns to the podcast for a focused conversation about an important element of Progressive Dispensationalism: the "both-and," or "already-not yet." Are Christians in Jesus' kingdom now? Are Christians saved yet? This conversation explores these topics and seeks to apply these principles to real life situations.

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0:00 Introduction

4:09 What Is Progressive Dispensationalism?

7:02 What Is the Complementary Hermeneutic?

13:10 Development of Meaning

19:29 Understanding Covenants and Kingdom

29:14 Israel and the Church

34:23 Practical Implications of Both-And

39:16 OT Applications Today

44:07 Conclusion