Michael Ventura is the founder and CEO of New York City creative agency Sub Rosa, and the author of Applied Empathy, a book about transforming business from the inside out by putting empathy first. Michael has spent his entire career trying to change how corporations do business by leading with the heart inside of the head.

In this (awesome) episode, we talk about Michael’s personal journey from New Jersey to the CEO office, his side work as a healer using indigenous medicine, and what everyone can do to apply empathy to their profession or business.