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Presave my forthcoming Digital Underground mixtape: push.fm/ps/digitalunderground

Ever considered making an album using only the skeleton of a horse you managed to buy off ebay? Or perhaps a statement about the UK's departure from the European Union via the contributions of over a thousand musicians?

I didn't think so, but the catalogue of this week's guest is notable for the fact that those projects are not outliers. Making a political point through music, as he might put it, isn't an option but rather a necessity.

We discuss the musical landscape of today, the joy of working with highly proficient instrumentalists, the lack of crossover between that proficiency and other forms of musical accomplishment, the potential AI revolution in music, and the contributions of Timbaland and Missy Elliott.

Matthew Herbert is a unique person in music, and his contributions over the past couple of decades are unlike anything else. This was a great conversation that you're going love.

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