Two guests on the show this week - first of all, Ben Morris (Kudos Distribution, and previously heard on NDP episode 63) joins us to discuss the SAULT phenomenon and their already-legendary show in London last week. If you're not familiar with the act then check all of the 11 albums released since 2019 here.

After that, it's time for...

James Jackson, known in the industry as Jacko, is managing director of radio, club and streaming at Listen Up, one of the bigger UK agencies focused on dance music.

The dream of hearing Pete Tong read out your name as he cues up your latest track through that unmistakable compression algorithm on BBC Radio 1 is one held my many an aspiring producer. But how does the dream become a reality?

We haven't discussed radio much on the show previously, but we remedy that this week with one of the UK's top men in the sector.

As well as working many of the dance scene's biggest tracks, as well as some very credible underground ones too, Jacko works UK radio for global stars including Doja Cat, and has a complete view of the radio landscape.

This is a great insider look into a fascinating aspect of the industry, you're gonna enjoy it.

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