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Martin has been rather fatalistic lately about the climate crisis. So rather than wallow alone we invited campaigning journalist for climate action, John Gibbons, so they could get all doomsday‘d together.

John outlines the very real climate changes that are happening now and the ways they are making life inhospitable in countries that had no part in their creation. This is not a happy podcast. But it is factual.

Editors note: recorded for members 2/5/23

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