Chris Kelly returns for Part 2! Ryan and Chris pick up where they left off, diving into everything from AV tech spaces that feel like “home” to the personal and professional journeys that shape us. Chris shares insight into his transition from mental health counseling to IT, how he approaches major life decisions, and why taking a pay cut for the right opportunity can be life-changing.

The conversation also explores the realities of introversion in people-heavy fields, the art of self-care at conferences like InfoComm, and the often unseen resilience behind career pivots. Plus, Chris reveals his unique bucket list goal — summiting the highest natural point in every U.S. state — and the spreadsheet precision that fuels his adventures.

🔹 Career transitions, risk vs. safety nets
🔹 Mental health work vs. IT life
🔹 Managing energy as an introvert
🔹 Climbing high points across America
🔹 Myers-Briggs deep dive: INTJ confirmed!
🔹 Stay curious, not judgmental.

Stick around for another round of the “last three questions” and a mic-drop final sign-off.


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