If you work in Learning and Development for a large organisation, there's a good chance that at some point you've spent years putting a programme together, only to find that by the time it launches the original stakeholders have left.

On this week's podcast, Ross D and Owen are joined by Steph Clarke to ask if this approach is overcomplicating learning - or oversimplifying it.

If you'd like to share your thoughts on the podcast, you can find us on Twitter @Ross__Dickie and @OwenFerguson.

Steph isn't on Twitter, but you can find her at stephclarke.com.

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Owen's WILTW, on what constitutes 'well read', came from The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/12/book-clinic-what-constitutes-well-read

The book Steph recommended, New Power: How It's Changing The 21st Century - And Why You Need To Know by Jeremy Heimans, is available at Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Power-Changing-21st-Century-ebook/dp/B076T8MJ83

And the book that Ross recommended was The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right by Atul Gawande, available at: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Checklist-Manifesto-Things-Right-Gawande/dp/1846683149

Incidentally, Atul Gawande was recently appointed CEO of a new healthcare venture from Amazon, Berkshire Hathaway and JPMorgan Chase. That story was covered by GeekWire here: https://www.geekwire.com/2018/atul-gawande-starts-first-day-ceo-amazon-berkshire-hathaway-jpmorgan-health-venture/

And if Ross G was here, he'd point out that Gawande also recently featured on the Freakonomics podcast, and is well worth a listen: http://freakonomics.com/podcast/atul-gawande/