Carl Benjamin joins me for a conversations about the UK's decline. From moral collapse and socialism-by-stealth to town centre decay and mass apathy, we dive into what went wrong and why fixing it might not be possible through conventional politics. Carl and I share personal plans for Swindon and Bedford, compare strategies and ask whether it's time to stop waiting for government and start building parallel institutions ourselves. CONTACT PETE › Website - http://petermccormack.com › Feedback - https://www.petermccormack.com/contact › Email - [email protected] › Instagram - /mccormack555 › X/Twitter - https://x.com/petermccormack/ CONNECT WITH CARL BENJAMIN › X/Twitter - https://x.com/Sargon_of_Akkad SPONSORS › IREN - https://www.iren.com/ › Ledger - https://www.ledger.com/ › Gemini - https://gemini.com/ › Casa - https://casa.io/ › Incogni - https://incogni.com/peter - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:02:45 – Swindon's decline and the roots of decay 00:06:07 – Immigration, homelessness & local failures 00:12:50 – Why councils are powerless & going bankrupt 00:18:52 – A decade of government mistakes 00:22:22 – Do we need a British Milei? 00:26:28 – Liz Truss was right & they destroyed her 00:30:01 – Communism by stealth 00:35:02 – Child rape gangs, the online safety bill & moral rot 00:38:36 – Why socialism always ends in collapse 00:42:26 – The left's worldview vs personal responsibility 00:46:29 – Can a government lose moral legitimacy? 00:52:48 – Can Reform UK actually change anything? 00:56:29 – Why Farage is failing at leadership 01:04:04 – The welfare Ponzi & boomer betrayal 01:07:00 – Why Carl won't abandon Swindon 01:10:59 – Peter's plan to rebuild Bedford 01:17:08 – Swindon's lost heart 01:21:01 – Food halls, culture & urban regeneration 01:25:33 – A blueprint for reviving towns across the UK 01:28:32 – Immigration, foot traffic and economic displacement 01:34:38 – We became reclusive & now we must fight it 01:37:03 – Reclaiming patriotism 01:40:48 – Waking up after COVID 01:44:00 – Final thoughts - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST › Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/40ruY9K › Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3Wc94Vu › Fountain: https://bit.ly/FountainPM › YouTube: https://bit.ly/YouTube_PM › Rumble: https://bit.ly/RumblePM FILMED BY CURTIS TAYLOR › https://www.curttaylor.co.uk/ › https://x.com/curttayloruk/ EDITED BY CONOR MCCORMACK › https://x.com/ConorM04 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -