Two weeks into the quarantine, isolation, distancing, whatever ... Kegan, Michael and Mark get together to share ideas, air, maybe some spit, and to confront human nature and the individually-driven behavior that has not yet been modified by microbes or the National Guard. We discuss Universal (National) Basic Income, flash mobs as revolution, or at least political pressure, our currently restricted movement as governmental telegraphing of the future, and — as ever — ignorant yet powerful people fighting tooth and nail (as if they have any idea what that means) to keep the power they believe they will have in perpetuity.