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Join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack

Thank you to human rights and healthcare activist, Seana Grant and cohost of Shrapnel, Sam Mcilwaine, for joining us to dive into the contentious issue of the July 12th celebrations.

We talk about what the 12th means to them as individuals and to people in their different communities; we delve into the past and ask has the toxicity lessened despite some ugly recent scenes?

We also discuss the underlying politics of these events and look at the "free state" mentality to such things. Spoiler: the Dublin bubble isn't great at understanding these issues.

Tickets:https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/tortoise-shack-live-tickets-632859177837

Podcast with Darren Duffy:https://www.patreon.com/posts/86167302