First words and last words get a lot of attention. But how did words get to have such a place of prominence? What would we see if we focused on interaction instead? A new book looks at words, gestures, and silence at the beginning and end of life. Daniel has a chat with the author of Bye Bye I Love You, Dr Michael Erard.

Timestamps

• Cold open: 0:00
• Intros: 1:05
• News: 6:59
• Related or Not: 35;54
• Interview with Michael Erard: 47:56
• Words of the Week: 1:33:32
• Comment: 1:45:46
• The Reads: 1:49:43
• Outtake: 1:56:01