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Rejoining us on the podcast to talk all things Spain and Catalunya is Madrid-based journalist and podcaster, Eoghan Gilmartin. He outlines how the amnesty law that is to pardon Catalan independence advocates, is getting used by a politicised Judiciary to charge several politicians with terrorism. Yes, terrorism.

We also talk Spain's climate action challenge as the drought in large parts of the country goes on and we go into why the Spanish government are one of the most vociferous critics of Israel's "war" on Gaza, Palestine.

The Damien Dempsey interview is out now here: