Jack Carr is a former Navy SEAL sniper and NYTs bestselling author of three novels, THE TERMINAL LIST, TRUE BELIEVER, and SAVAGE SON, two of which were on the NYTs audio bestseller list simultaneously. He is a prolific reader, influenced as a writer by many of the greats of the "military/spy novel" genre, and a man who understood exactly what he wanted to do with his life at a very young age. He is a warrior-poet, self-described "gear guy", and a seeker. In this conversation he and Mark discuss their overlap in experience and relationships, development of the PCU cold-weather clothing system, light haul system, all sorts of nerdy shooting stuff, and remember great men who did and are currently doing great things. It's a talk about action, and writing, politics and current events where few stones are left unturned but enough are that a second conversation is inevitable. Tune in. Turn on. And enjoy.

Show Note: When discussing Rick Sylvester's amazing ski-BASE jump at the opening of "The Spy Who Loved Me" in 1976 Mark confidently, yet mistakenly identified the exit as Mount Thor when it was actually Mount Asgard. But because that bit of the chat was so fun it was not edited out, Mark figuring it is more honest to simply remain embarrassed for the rest of his days.