Jocelyn Brewer is a psychologist and expert in "digital nutrition". She's also a mum to a two and a bit year old, so she's navigating the same challenges most of us are: how much screen time is too much? Is all our mindless scrolling while breastfeeding doing damage? And is it okay to have a crush on Bandit, Bluey's dad? 

Our chat covers a lot: we start with Jocelyn's positive birth and postpartum (and the biggest reason she thinks the latter went as smoothly as it did). Then we dive deep into the guilt-inducing topic of kids and devices... and why perhaps the answer isn't banning screens or doing some kind of digital detox, but a more moderate approach that allows for scrolling (and that thing you have for Bandit).