What should schools do about climate change? To get some perspective on this big, even existential, question, Have You Heard is joined summons an all-star cast. Oren Pizmony-Levy, the director of the Center for Sustainable Futures at Teachers College, Columbia University, breaks down the big debates regarding schools and climate change. Investigative journalist Katie Worth, author of Miseducation, reports from her deep dive into climate change education around the country. And Elissa Levy, who teaches physics and computer science at the High School for Climate Justice in East Harlem, NY, tells us about the first public school in the nation with “climate” in its name.

And in our In the Weeds segment for Patreon subscribers, Jack and Jennifer wonder ‘what ever happened to the opt-out movement?’ For access, reading lists and more, go to Patreon.com/haveyouheardpodcast to become a supporter.