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Rebecca's back from vacation and there's soooooo much to discuss including: The verdict in Kelsey Fitzsimmons' Trial, her live appearance with attorney Tim Bradl on Aidan Kearney's Turtleboy live, new filings in the Karen Read civil cases, and did the head cheese and Jen McCabe bestife, Mama Llama, use her influence in Canton to implore Chief Rafferty to charge citizens for engaging in their 1A rights. It's gonna be a doozy! If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...">https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-... </a> If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: <a href="http://cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips">cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips</a> paypal: <a href="https://paypal.me/MelBarrett11">paypal.me/MelBarrett11 </a> You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!</div>

Rebecca's back from vacation and there's soooooo much to discuss including: The verdict in Kelsey Fitzsimmons' Trial, her live appearance with attorney Tim Bradl on Aidan Kearney's Turtleboy live, new filings in the Karen Read civil cases, and did the head cheese and Jen McCabe bestife, Mama Llama, use her influence in Canton to implore Chief Rafferty to charge citizens for engaging in their 1A rights. It's gonna be a doozy! If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-... If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips paypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!

Rebecca's back from vacation and there's soooooo much to discuss including: The verdict in Kelsey Fitzsimmons' Trial, her live appearance with attorney Tim Bradl on Aidan Kearney's Turtleboy live, new filings in the Karen Read civil cases, and did the head cheese and Jen McCabe bestife, Mama Llama, use her influence in Canton to implore Chief Rafferty to charge citizens for engaging in their 1A rights. It's gonna be a doozy!&nbsp;If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-..." rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-... </a> If you like us, please tip us:&nbsp;venmo: @melbarrettwrites&nbsp;cashapp: <a href="http://cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips" rel="noopener noreferrer">cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips</a>&nbsp;paypal: <a href="https://paypal.me/MelBarrett11" rel="noopener noreferrer">paypal.me/MelBarrett11 </a> You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level.&nbsp;Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts!&nbsp;Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!

135: Rebecca's Back PLUS Turtleboy interviews Kelsey Fitzsimmons

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The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. 
 
Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. 
 
Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. 
 
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There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc Web: inbetweenpod.com

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. 
 
The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. 
 
Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. 
 
Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. 
 
This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. 
 
Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: <a href="https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink</a> 
 
Follow The In Between Podcast at: 
IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial 
FB: @TheInBetweenPod 
Bluesky: @inbetweenpod 
TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc 
 
Web: <a href="http://inbetweenpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">inbetweenpod.com</a>

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