Mel and Rebecca discuss KAren Read updates, the Turtleboy movie, Aaron Spencer trial updates, police corruption and civil rights.

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0:00 Intro + Nightline/Other Updates

11:20 David Yanetti + should Rebecca play poker?

25:05 Updates from the show with Maggie Freleng

36:53 Karen Read updates/sidebar info

51:45 What’s up with paid commenters?

58:45 Aaron Spencer Case Info/Updates

1:20:33 Police Corruption/Civil Rights Discussion

1:27:16 Can we use all the bad to bring people together?

1:39:42 Discussion of politicized language/freedom of speech

1:47:20 Dyson AirWrap…share the show… goodbye for now!

A new episode of Something's Off! Rebecca's back from her nude beach vacation and she's got some stories to tell!

We also dive into the new release of Brian Higgins police interview and the inconsistencies we found there, Turtleboy/Young Jerks fundraiser drama, Plevin Lenihan's "bombshell," and of course, more sidebahs!

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Two people are dead.

A family has been destroyed.

And a seventeen-year-old girl is sitting in jail, charged as an adult and facing the possibility of life without parole.

In this episode of The In Between, Mel takes a careful, evidence-forward look at the case of Sarah Grace Patrick, a Georgia teenager accused of murdering her mother and stepfather while they slept.

This is not an episode about internet rumor or TikTok outrage. It’s about what we actually know, what we don’t, and how quickly narrative has replaced transparency in a case where the stakes could not be higher.

Mel breaks down the known facts, the gaps in the public record, the prosecution’s likely theory, and the defense’s emerging strategy — including the role of adolescent brain development, forensic neuropsychology, and the danger of treating online behavior as evidence of guilt.

She also confront the broader issues this case raises:
What happens to the presumption of innocence in the age of social media?
How harmful is it when “experts” turn compliance into confession?
And what does it say about our justice system when a child can legally be sentenced to die in prison?

This episode lives in the space between confidence and proof — and asks why, before trial has even begun, so many people seem so certain.

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While Rebecca's away, Mel jumped on solo to talk about two cases that are keeping her up at night: Aaron Spencer, the Arkansas father, who killed the man who had SA'd and kidnapped his daughter. Was it vigilantism, or stopping a crime as it was happening. Let Mel know in the comments.

And well-known actor, Timothy Busfield (Thirtysomething, West Wing) is arrested for child SA, accused of abusing 11 year-old twin boys who he was directing on set of The Cleaning Lady. His wife, Melissa Gilbert (Little House on the Prairie), is standing by her man.

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While Rebecca's on vacation, Mel sits down with fellow podcaster, rockstar journalist, all around badass, and friend, Maggie Freleng. If you want to watch Mel fangirl all over Maggie, join us! We'll be talking about Maggie's groundbreaking work on wrongful convictions, her newest and amazing podcast, Bone Valley: Graves County Season 3, and the ethics of reporting in the true crime sphere.

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We knew that already though.

Join Mel and cohost, Ellyn Marsh, who is in for Rebecca who is on vacation as they talk Alan Jackson on Billy Bush, Rotten Mango interview w/Karen Read, and Microdots 24 mph in reverse?

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In this episode of The In Between, Mel sits down with Pamela Smart’s attorney and her good friend— Matthew Zernhelt, on what feels like a turning point day in Pam’s case.

Matt has spent years doing the kind of work that doesn’t fit neatly into soundbites: complex post-conviction litigation, constitutional violations, and the long, grinding fight to get a court to actually look at what went wrong. And this week, he and his team filed a new habeas petition — a last-resort legal mechanism that lets you challenge a conviction after the appeals are over, but only on specific, fundamental constitutional grounds.

We break down what a habeas petition is (in plain English), why Pam’s case is so unusual, and why this filing is happening in two places at once: New Hampshire, where she was convicted, and New York, where she’s been incarcerated for decades under an interstate compact that creates a jurisdictional mess no one seems to have a clear playbook for.

Then we walk through the five core arguments in the petition — including:

This is a conversation about law, yes — but it’s also about how a person gets “convicted by headline,” how institutions double down, and what it takes to reopen a case the public thinks it already knows.

You’ll hear what happens next, what an evidentiary hearing would look like, and what a “win” actually means here — a new trial, a new sentencing hearing, or the first real shot in decades at getting Pamela Smart back to New Hampshire… and back to her life.

(The petition is public and will be made available to listeners. The underlying study has not yet been formally published, but it’s coming.)

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What happens when the state kills someone — and then decides the story matters more than the truth?

In this episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett, examines the killing of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother of three shot and killed by a federal ICE agent in Minneapolis. Using newly analyzed video, eyewitness accounts, and reporting that directly contradicts the federal government’s claims, this episode slows the moment down — frame by frame — and asks what we’re being told to believe, and why.

This isn’t just about one shooting.
It’s about narrative power.
About confirmation bias and “alternative facts.”
About being trained to reject the evidence of our own eyes.

As protests erupt and federal agencies close ranks, local investigators are shut out, the FBI takes exclusive control of the evidence, and career civil rights prosecutors resign rather than participate in what they see as a refusal to investigate. The institutions meant to provide accountability begin to crack — and the cost of that collapse becomes painfully clear.

This episode confronts fear-as-justification, panic-as-crime, and the growing gap between what happens and what we’re told happened. It asks what justice looks like when transparency disappears — and what it means when the people inside the system walk away.

Because Renee Good didn’t get a trial.
And her story deserves more than a press release.

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