Mel got the chance to catch up with Pam, which gave her an opportunity to respond to the podcast so far.

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The media's role in creating the trope of the "manipulative ice princess" and how that categorization found Pam Smart's family desperately searching to find their daughter and sister within the prison system when she went missing during the first two years of her Life Without Parole Sentence.

Listen to find out where she was and why her family couldn't find her until it was too late to say goodbye.

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For fourteen days in March of 1991, the country and much of the world was riveted by a court case in a tiny New Hampshire town called, Exeter. The Pamela Smart Accomplice to Murder Trial.

​Perhaps everyone was so enthralled by the spectacle they missed the very real possibility of a miscarriage of justice, but there's the tape and transcripts. Mel takes a deep dive on the trial and errors that occurred.

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This episode wasn't planned, but Mel felt compelled to share it when she FINALLY tracked down one of the key players in this story, and he spent an hour with her. This is the only episode in the series that is comprised of an interview with a source. Listen to find out why.

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The wire taps were the only physical evidence against Pamela Smart, so the questions remain: Was Pamela Smart acting when she was recorded by the Derry Police and Cecelia Pierce? She says she was.

Were the wiretaps edited or spliced? Forensic audiologists say yes.

Who transcribed the tapes? The prosecutor says some "secretary" in the Attorney General's office, not a certified transcriber.

Mel dives deep into the tapes in this episode and even manages to get her hands on the famed transcripts.

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Only one of the five teens involved in planning and carrying out the murder of Gregg Smart on May 1, 1990 was never charged and never served a day behind bars. Cecelia Pierce. In this episode, Mel goes on another deep dive to figure out why. She even comes across some potentially new evidence...if she can figure out where it exists.

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Hi friends! It’s Mel Barrett, the host of The In Between Podcast, coming at you with a very big announcement.

On Tuesday, January 14th at 5:45 pm EST, Ellyn Marsh from I Think Not and Rabia and Ellyn Solve the Case, and I will be co-hosting a live event on the Grab Bag Collab Patreon for our “Behind the Scenes” and up tiers about my first season of TIBP, Live Free or Die. The first season of the pod, if you haven’t listened yet, is all about the Pamela Smart Accomplice to Murder Trial that happened in New Hampshire in 1990 AND  Pam’s new legal fight taking place as I speak with you right now.

We’ll have a special guest joining us–someone at the very center of this case–and we’ll be talking about the new appeal as well as answering any burning questions you have about the case and Pam Smart herself. Audience participation is encouraged. I’m telling you now, you don’t want to miss it.

Mel takes you on a deep, deep dive into the teens involved in the murder and who they were at the time, and beyond. Was there a reason behind Bill Flynn's emotions on the stand? What did they actually do to Pam's dog? Listener discretion is advised. You've been warned.

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Pam is angry. The men who pulled the trigger and killed her husband are out. They’ve been out for almost a decade while she still sits in prison without any possibility of parole. 

But Pam has been angry for nearly 34 years. Her anger is part of how we think of her, how we remember her.

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In this debut episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett takes you back to May 1990, when Gregg Smart was brutally murdered in the condo he shared with his young wife, Pamela Smart. Just down the road, a 15-year-old Mel listened closely as her family and neighbors confidently discussed the case: Pamela, they believed, had manipulated her 16-year-old lover into killing her husband. Now, thirty-four years later, Mel revisits what she was told back then, questioning the narrative that has lingered in her hometown. In this gripping episode, Mel begins her journey of breaking down the case and invites you in to make up your own mind, while she challenges decades of conviction and doubt.

Tune in as Mel digs deep into a case that forever changed her community.

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